Proof Republicans Are Liars

One might take exception to the plural Republicans, in the title, but they shouldn’t. ALL the republican candidates (except Ron Paul) lied about tons of stuff. Its all there on tape. Republicans are liars.

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  1. #1 by Oprahs' Orifice on September 14, 2008 - 9:14 am

    Can you believe the audacity if these republicans, or rather simply people that won’t for Obama, well because as most politicians, HE LIES. From an e-mail that is traveling the web. I imagine it could well end up under more eyes that the NYT.

    I figure these lies may have more impact, for unlike Palin, Obama is actually running for president. Things are just beginning to warm up.

    Some more email comments. My favorite is the fourth comment; it consists of 43 asserted claims, each challenged and rebutted.

    That one especially should be copied and circulated.

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    1-“camargue @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:29 am
    Martin Sieff has written the fabulous column of a keen wordsmith; insightful, analytical, and fair.

    Gibson missed a marvelous opportunity with Governor Palin, when he chose to go for points from his pseudo-intellectual friends over a competent interview. He preened when he thought that he was more knowledgeable about the Bush Doctrine than her, but now looks ridiculous since she was correct.

    Gotcha’s rarely are successful in the long run. If Gibson had realized that Palin was right, he could have excused himself at the time, gaining points for himself and the media. However, he was too slow, too ill informed, or too arrogant, and missed another opportunity.

    Gibson was professorial and tutorial; but pedantic and bored, as though the job was beneath him. She was tense and that gave her an exciting edge. He controlled the interview yet she won the day. He was sarcastic, mocking, condescending, and snotty to a thoroughly decent woman; he was smarmy and she was elegant. ”

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    2- “camargue @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 2:42 am
    Have any of you ever noticed that:

    Republicans never, ever, ever, pretend to be Democrats.

    Democrats are not able to post without calling others: idiot, moron, retard, stupid, uneducated, redneck, racist, or some kind of animal.

    Democrats claim to be educated and intelligent, yet do not know how to argue, and do very little actual research.

    Democrats claim to care only about issues and policy, yet only post opinion, never facts.

    Democrats believe that their opinion is evidence, and that the sum total of their opinions amount to valid conclusions. ”

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    3- “averagejoe @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 8:05 am
    In one week, Obama with the help of Charlie Gibson has offended 2 major voting blocks. I’m talking OFFENDED and INSULTED.

    First, the religeous right AND left… Way to go, Charlie.

    Secondly, the millions of good folks out there like my 16 aunts and uncles who don’t know how to work a computer because they were too busy fighting our nations wars, growing crops, working in factories and making this country great during the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s 60’s, and 70’s and 80’s.

    They may not feel comfortable on the computer, but they sure as heck lnow how to work the voting machine.

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    4- tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    OBAMA’s LIES:

    1.) Selma Got Me Born – NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google ‘Obama Selma ‘ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

    2.) My Father Was A Goat Herder – NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

    3.) My Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

    4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga’s follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone.

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    tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:45 pm OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    5.) Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers burned Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

    6.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5 am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

    7.) My Name is African Swahili – NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.”

    “tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    8.) Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From….and for more….go to…..9.) h
    10.) I Never Practiced Islam – NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.”

    “tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    12.) My School In Indonesia was Christian – NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

    13.) February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset.’ This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says ‘Obama’s narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.’

    14.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

    tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    15.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience – NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran.

    16.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
    17.) I Blame My Ea rly Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.

    18.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

    19.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life – NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

    tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    20.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ’08 – NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

    21.) Voting ‘Present’ is common in the Illinois Senate – NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 ‘NO VOTES’.

    22.) ‘Oops, I Misvoted’ – NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

    23.) I Was A Professor Of Law – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    24.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.”

    “tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    25.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – NOT EXACTLY, you didn’t write it, introduce it, ch ange it, or create it.

    26.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

    27.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

    28.) I Have Released My State Records – NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

    29.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens&nbs p; You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books”


    tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    30.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

    31.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

    32.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

    33.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA – NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

    tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:49 pm OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    34.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel ..

    35.) I Want All Votes To Count – NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

    36.) I Want Americans To Decide – NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

    37.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – NOT EXACTLY, you passed only 26, most of which you d idn’t write yourself.

    38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.”

    “tonybacci @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 1:49 pm OBAMA’s LIES (continued):

    39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

    40.) I don’t Have Lobbyists – NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

    41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

    42.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – NOT EXACTLY, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

    43.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it”

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    5- “OldeGrump @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 2:00 pm
    Pretty typical of the old media; smug, superior, & blatantly partisan. ABC, thanks to good old Charlie, is now exposed as another wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat National Committee. And just about as reliable as would be the DNC for unvarnished, unbiased honest news. The only thing missing in the interview was a laugh/applause track to compliment their dishonest editing which, it is now revealed, altered the meaning and thrust of some of the Governor’s answers. No one thought any national broadcast network could ever get any more dishonest than Dan Rather’s unprincipled smear in 2004 about Bush’s National Guard service; those so thinking were obviously wrong.

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    6- “LiberalBias08 @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 8:59 pm
    As Krauthammer notes, Charlie flubbed the Bush doctrine question and failed to get his “gotcha” moment.
    I wish I could better understand the liberal strategy of trying to make Palin out to be inexperienced. Don’t they understand that she has more executive experience than Obama and she’s not the one running for president? In my estimation, the more aggressive the Obama campaign and their liberal media surrogates are in this line of questioning, the more they erode/undermine Obama. Even if Obama and Palin had equal executive experience, Obama is the presidential candidate and should be held to a higher standard.

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    7- “Harry @ Sept. 13, 2008 at 11:06 pm
    Perhaps it was better that she didn’t go on the attack, since part of her appeal is her basic friendliness, reminiscent of Ronald Reagan. Mr. Gibson revealed himself clearly enough as a partisan attack-artist, using the same old tactics of treachery and trickery that have been the hallmark of the liberal political machine for years past remembering. He gained nothing, since the accuracy of her remarks has been restored with perfect ease, while at the same time Mr. Gibson is exposed as a fiddler with facts at best, and a trickster in probable reality. You would think they all would have taken a lesson from the Dan Rather affair, but no, the arrogance is great.

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    7- “WellFedAmerican @ Sept. 14, 2008 at 12:23 am
    Charlie Gibson has proven himself to be a liberal tool. I’m glad this interview happened so the conservative world now know which side of the fence he’s on, and can make the choice to quit supporting him and/or his sponsors. Personally, I’ll never watch him again.
    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t care if someone is liberal in the media (Jon Stewart for instance), I’m just sick and tired of people like Charlie who hide behind an objective mask, while in the background try to push their agenda. It’s pathetic and weak, and is typical of the modern democrats approach to winning. Liberalism is a mental disorder, and to back that up, go to youtube and do a search on “how modern liberals think”. It’s a fantastic analysis.

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  2. #2 by Bob S. on September 14, 2008 - 10:22 am

    OO, Great post.

    Cliff,

    I’m would like your opinion on Olberman?

    Is he a credible, a-political source? I know many people wouldn’t consider him to be a-political…shouldn’t he be disqualified as a source according to the standard you set?

  3. #3 by Larry Bergan on September 14, 2008 - 1:47 pm

    People without names everywhere, STAND STRONG!

    Oprahs’ Orifice will lead the charge with his fellow patriots:

    camargue
    averagejoe
    tonybacci
    OldeGrump
    LiberalBias08
    …and the honorable, brave Bob S.

    Bob S:

    Olbermann is very partisan and wouldn’t have been acceptable, even to me, 10 years ago, but, my, how things have changed. Now Olbermann is the last hope of getting the truth out above the shouts of the liars on EVERY SINGLE television political program except his and Maddow.

  4. #4 by Cliff on September 14, 2008 - 2:34 pm

    OK Bob S,

    I checked out all Bush Admin lies Olbermann lists and they are all provable.

    If you can show otherwise please do. I won’t hold my breath.

    You know, unlike you I suppose, I don’t believe Olbermann because he hates Bush (as does over half the country).

    I like Olbermann because he has balls and no one can touch him. No one has ever challenged his special comments.

    May I assume you get your information from Sean Hannity?

  5. #5 by Bob S. on September 14, 2008 - 3:15 pm

    Cliff,

    According to your own standard, it doesn’t matter if the anything is provable or not. You’ve stated repeatedly that you don’t accept any source that isn’t “credible and a-political”, right?

    As far as Olbermann never being challenged, check out Newsbusters.

    Frankly, what I’m trying to point out is the blatant and hypocritical standard applied. Olbermann is okay to use but Hannity isn’t.

    I think it really shows the goal here isn’t the truth.

  6. #6 by Cliff Lyon on September 14, 2008 - 3:32 pm

    You’re right Bob S, the goal here isn’t the truth, it just happens to be on our side.

  7. #7 by Cliff Lyon on September 14, 2008 - 3:33 pm

    Bob S,

    Would you prefer I reference Karl Rove calling McCain a liar?

  8. #8 by Bob S. on September 14, 2008 - 3:44 pm

    Cliff,

    Since it seems that some folks can’t comprehend or remember what they’ve right in the past. I’ll restate some of the comments I’ve made in the past.

    –McCain Lied, Obama Lied, Biden Lied, Palin Lied. They are politicians, it is what they do. Question is who lies the less.

    –I”m not so much voting for McCain as I am voting against Obama.

    –A cartoon summed up the election very succintly:
    McCain – NATIONAL socialism
    Obaam – national SOCIALISM

    –Let’s throw out all of the scoundrels and start over again.

    I’m glad you’ve finally admitted your goal isn’t the truth, it shows in your posts.

  9. #9 by Cliff Lyon on September 14, 2008 - 4:13 pm

    Bob S,

    I wouldn’t have guessed you would keep stepping in it, but alas you must enjoy humiliation.

    If eveyone lies and its all the same to you, how do you feel about the fact that every person and news outlet related to politics is talking about McCain and Palin lying. Not Obama.

  10. #10 by Bob S. on September 14, 2008 - 4:22 pm

    Cliff,

    Obviously your reading comprehension skills are lacking. Show me where I said that lying doesn’t matter to me.

    A question, if truth isn’t your goal here, does that mean you lie to achieve your goal?

    And another favorite of mine….from you. Unsupportable comments and those who make them must be held accountable, right?

    So, where is your proof that?

    the fact that every person and news outlet related to politics is talking about McCain and Palin lying.

    So you should be able to show that each and every news outlet and person related to politics is talking about McCain and Palin lying, right?

  11. #11 by jdberger on September 14, 2008 - 9:06 pm

    Obama’s ship appears to have sprung a leak…

    gosh, if Willie Brown’s called it for John & Sarah, it’s gotta be over…

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/14/BAU112SFSU.DTL

  12. #12 by Albert O. on September 14, 2008 - 9:20 pm

    jd:

    Huh? The stress is starting to affect your mind. Get help. There must be lots of 12-step programs for repugs sprouting up all over the place about now.

  13. #13 by Oprahs' Orifice on September 14, 2008 - 11:08 pm

    12 step programs require a person to believe in a higher power. By the time the can ‘o whupass is applied to Obama supporters, I figure there will be a whole bunch of people believing in one by then.

    Til then drink until you drop.

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