Is The Salt Lake Tribune Covering for BYU Grad Jay Bybee?

A first time commenter posted this OneUtah today claiming a Salt Lake Tribune blog deleted it?s-bybee-large

A little background on Jay Bybee Says:

I posted this to Glen Warchol’s blog … it was deleted.

Bybee graduated magna cum laude from Brigham Young University in 1977. He earned his Juris Doctor cum laude[5] from BYU’s J. Reuben Clark Law School in 1980. While in law school, he served on the editorial board of the BYU Law Review.

I couldn’t find a post on Glen Warchol’s SLC Crawler related to the recent revelations about Bybee or his torture memo, so it may well be that the comment was removed for being off subject. and probably by someone in a more administrative role at the paper.

I’m not sure how I feel about that. It is certainly their right, but it also reflects a policy of control that is at odds with the value and merit of blogging and open discussion. I will send this off to Glen so he has a chance to respond.

There is a story here though. Not only is it likely that Bybee will be impeachedwhich would be a serious black mark on BYU, but it seems that BYU Law School graduates made up a disproportionate number of Bush era appointees and hires. The Bush administration proved to be an unabashed recruiter of the most dependably right-wing collaborators whose greater value was not so much in their credentials, but rather in their loyalty and reliability in following order without regard for precedent or law.

It should surprise no one that the neocons looked to Utah County for their foot soldiers. After all, Utah County produced Chris Cannon and Jason Chavetz.

BYU Law School has produced some good lawyers, but it has produced at least one celebrated graduate who has subverted his teachings (legal training) for self-interest and promotion and in the process, participated in one of the ugliest episodes in American and World history.

Judge Bybee MUST be impeached and then indicted for his role in the administration’s violation of domestic and international law. He should also be ‘judged’ for not speaking out for his Country when he had the opportunity.

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  1. #1 by Richard Warnick on April 21, 2009 - 1:15 pm

    TAKE ACTION: Tell Congress To Hold Impeachment Hearings Against Judge Jay Bybee

    Bybee attempted to give legal cover to illegal acts, and thus broke the ethical, professional, and legal standards that should govern lawyers. For this, Judge Jay Bybee should be impeached.

  2. #2 by Cliff on April 21, 2009 - 1:23 pm

    Link
    As it happens, the California Democratic Party can speak with one voice about this next week. Grassroots activists submitted a resolution to be decided at next week’s convention in Sacramento that would call for the impeachment of Jay Bybee from the 9th Circuit. This resolution has already been accepted, UNANIMOUSLY, by the Los Angeles County Democratic Party. It can pass at the state level.

    Resolutions are somewhat toothless unless used properly AFTER the fact. In the resolution (which I’ll put below), it is stipulated that “a copy of this resolution with its original authorization be sent to the Office of the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, and the Majority Leader of the United States Senate, and that copies of the signed resolution be sent to each member of the California delegation to the United States Senate and House of Representatives.” California members of the HJC include Zoe Lofgren, Maxine Waters, Howard Berman, Brad Sherman, Adam Schiff and Linda Sanchez. The last five, at least, have part or all of LA County in their districts, and could be told RIGHT NOW that their local party has resolved unanimously to impeach Bybee. Should the entire state party agree, all the California members, including the Speaker of the House, and the two Senators (both of whom voted against confirming Bybee) can be told the same. And resolutions like this could spring up all over the country, increasing pressure from the bottom up for the Congress to act.

    It starts next week in Sacramento. The Resolutions Committee meeting will be held at 3:00 on Friday, April 24, at the Sacramento Convention Center, 1400 J St., Sacramento, CA. If you’re in the area or if you are a delegate, you can come to the meeting and advocate for the resolution. But the decision will likely be made beforehand. Only a few resolutions get out of committee and to the floor of the convention, and the others are tabled, or combined, or referred to a separate committee. We CANNOT let this happen. The ledership of the California Democratic Party needs to hear from constituents on this issue.

    Sacramento Office
    (916) 442-5707 phone
    (916) 442-5715 fax

    Los Angeles Office
    (310) 407-0980 phone
    (310) 407-0981 fax

    email contact form

    I’ve also created a petition at Petition Online urging the CDP to pass this.

    Petition

    We have an opportunity to use the party apparatus to push for accountability and send it up to leaders in Washington. I urge everyone to get on board with this. Thanks.

    RESOLUTION TO IMPEACH JUDGE JAY BYBEE
    Passed Unanimously by LACDP, 4/14/09
    Whereas, the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees the people a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances; and,

    Whereas the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment, the supreme law of the land under Article VI of our Constitution, requires the prosecution of those who authorize torture, waterboarding is torture, and both former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Richard B. Cheney have admitted to authorizing waterboarding; and,

    Whereas former Assistant Attorney General, and current Federal Judge of the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit Jay Bybee signed the “Bybee Memo,” or “Torture Memo” of August 1, 2002, which advised the C.I.A. that “cruel, inhuman or degrading” treatment was at times allowable under U.S. law, and authored, co-authored and signed other memos on “extraordinary rendition” and “enhanced interrogation,” more of which are being currently revealed to the American public as the new administration brings them to light; now,

    Therefore be it resolved that the Los Angeles County Democratic Party urges that the United States House of Representatives begin impeachment proceedings against Judge Jay Bybee of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, charging him with facilitating the authorization of torture while employed by the United States Department of Justice; and,

    Therefore be it further resolved that a copy of this resolution with its original authorization be sent to the Office of the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, and the Majority Leader of the United States Senate, and that copies of the signed resolution be sent to each member of the California delegation to the United States Senate and House of Representatives.

  3. #3 by jdberger on April 21, 2009 - 2:14 pm

    This is important.

    Cliff?

    Can you please define torture?

    It’s important that people in this discussion are all on the same page when it comes to the operative terms.

  4. #4 by Richard Warnick on April 21, 2009 - 3:16 pm

    jd–

    Learn to use The Google yourself, why don’t you? U.S. Code Title 18 § 2340.

  5. #5 by Cliff on April 21, 2009 - 3:18 pm

    JD,

    I’m honored you would ask for my personal definition of torture.

    Disclaimer: My definition of torture should be in no way construed to represent the formal definition of torture or Jay Bybee’s definition of torture.

    JD, Just between you and me (don’t tell)…torture is being reminded everyday that uncaring, unsympathetic and selfishness people who never tire of talking about killing and thinking about how to kill, walk this earth, still.

  6. #6 by cav, on April 21, 2009 - 3:21 pm

    Cliff scores!

  7. #7 by jdberger on April 21, 2009 - 4:49 pm

    In your own words, Richard.

    Then we’ll discuss SERE.

    JD, Just between you and me (don’t tell)…torture is being reminded everyday that uncaring, unsympathetic and selfishness people who never tire of talking about killing and thinking about how to kill, walk this earth, still.

    Cliffy,
    you
    only
    indict
    yourself.

    What’s the title of your last top post?

    While you’re at it, could you please provide what you think Jay Bybee’s definition of torture is? You HAVE read the memo, right?

    C’mon. You’re so cute when your befuddled. Maybe Rachel Maddow knows! Make sure to write it down real clear so you don’t miss anything.

    Cav – it’s nice to see you’r back to cheerleading! Run out of opaque references disguised as useful commentary? I’m starting to wonder if you are simply Dwight Sheldon Adams alternate lysergic personality. Hmmm?

  8. #8 by cav, on April 21, 2009 - 5:41 pm

    My definition of torture should be in no way construed to represent the formal definition of torture or Jay Bybee’s definition of torture.

    We’re all cheerleaders at times – even you.

  9. #9 by cav, on April 21, 2009 - 6:02 pm

    A quick question: Are you Dick Cheney’s Daughter? I don’t know it just came to me like a fly in the eye while bicycling. It would answer so many questions if true.

    (clearly useless commentary)

  10. #10 by Cliff Lyon on April 21, 2009 - 6:59 pm

    Cav, Any chance I might have seen you peddaling up Mill Creek?

  11. #11 by cav, on April 21, 2009 - 7:05 pm

    Not lately, I’ve been in Oregon since August.

  12. #12 by cav, on April 21, 2009 - 7:06 pm

    Escaped without shaking your hand.

    (More sad, useless cheerleader-type commentary)

  13. #13 by Cliff on April 21, 2009 - 8:27 pm

    Are you coming home? This would be a good time you know with spring’n all, melting snow, cool breeze and sunlight you can cut with a knife.

  14. #14 by Neo on April 28, 2009 - 1:47 pm

    Cliff,

    I’m the one breaking the story about Mormons, Jay Bybee, Torture and the Republican Party. You should also be aware that D.Kyle Sampson, another devout Mormon and BYU graduate started the 2006 US attorney scandal by firng 8 US attorneys. See my website for why they would do this.

    You are missing a very, very important aspect of the Bybee White House torture issue. Jay Bybee, D. Kyle Sampson and Tim Flanigan were all Mormons who worked for Senator Orrin Hatch, the Mormon Senator from Utah. Karl Rove was born and raised in Salt Lake City and is “controlled” by powerful Mormons, Dick Cheney’s wife is Mormon and his son works in Salt Lake City, and John Yoo and David Addington both reported to Hatch and Cheney. Further, Rove was actually involved in the Watergate conspiracy and was actually investigated by Nixon. The bottom line is that Mormons were (and still are) trying to take control of the White House, in accordance with Mormon prophecy

    What I am about to share with you is incredible, but true. When I was in college, and after joining the Mormon religion, I accidentally discovered that Joseph Smith was arrested for treason for trying to overthrow the Government of the United States. I learned that the Mormon religion has fought three wars against the American Government since 1830, that the Mormon religion has many prophecies about how “Mormon Elders of Zion will rush-in and save the Constitution” and that America’s destiny is to become a “Mormon Kingdom of Zion”. On September 15, 1857, Brigham Young even declared independence from the United States altogether. In fact, when the Mormons settled in the Utah Territory in July of 1847, the lands they claimed belonged to Mexico and Young purposely led his Mormons outside the boundaries of the United States in order to found their own sovereign Mormon nation, which they called Deseret.

    More recently, Jay Bybee, Tim Flanigan, D. Kyle Sampson, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Yohn Yoo and David Addington are all Mormons or individuals who reported to Mormons in the U.S. Government who wrote the “Bush Torture Policy” and re-wrote the President’s emergency war powers legislation, which would allow the President to seize control of the Government during a time of national emergency. These same powers would also allow the President to become the “Paramount Unitary Commander” and circumvent the checks and balances of the Constitution. Strangely, VP Cheney practiced to become the “Paramount Unitary Commander, Jay Bybee (BYU law graduate) drafted the “Bush Torture Policy” and D. Kyle Sampson (BYU grad) fired the US Attorneys that started the “US Attorney scandal”, and he worked for Senator Orrin Hatch.

    Coincidentally, a large number of Mormons were also involved in the recent terrorist events, which was the excuse needed to update the President’s “emergency war powers legislation”. Did you know that two of the four 9/11 terrorist pilots were trained at Huffman Aviation in Florida and the secret owner of Huffman Aviation was a Mormon bishop by the name of Wallace Hilliard, or that Terry Nichols was Mormon and met with Ramzi Yousef 6-months prior to the 1995 OKC bombing (in Cebu City, Philippines)? Further, Salt Lake City based company by the name of Dyno-Nobel actually sold the ammonium nitrate that Ramzi Yousef used for bombing the WTC in 1993, and Ryder trucks were used in both the 1993 WTC and 1995 OKC bombings, and the President of Ryder trucks was a Mormon stake president living in Florida by the name of Anthony Burns.

    See – http://www.MormonZeitgeist.com

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