Ten Years Later, President Bush Tries to Explain His Deer-in-Headlights Reaction to the World Trade Center Attack

Bush on 9/11

David Ferguson on Raw Story:

In a rare interview with the National Geographic Channel, Bush reflects on what was going through his mind at the most dramatic moment of his presidency when he was informed that a second passenger jet had hit New York’s World Trade Center.

Bush was visiting a Florida classroom and the incident, which was caught on TV film, and has often been used by critics to ridicule his apparently blank face.

“My first reaction was anger. Who the hell would do that to America? Then I immediately focused on the children, and the contrast between the attack and the innocence of children,” Bush says in an excerpt of the interview shown to television writers on Thursday.

Bush said he could see the news media at the back of the classroom getting the news on their own cellphones “and it was like watching a silent movie.”

Bush said he quickly realized that a lot of people beyond the classroom would be watching for his reaction.

“So I made the decision not to jump up immediately and leave the classroom. I didn’t want to rattle the kids. I wanted to project a sense of calm,” he said of his decision to remain seated and silent.

“I had been in enough crises to know that the first thing a leader has to do is to project calm,” he added.

The National Geographic Channel will broadcast the hour-long interview on August 28 as part of a week of programs on the cable network called “Remembering 9/11″ that mark the 10th anniversary of the attacks.

I don’t know of the kids were rattled or not. President Bush sure looked rattled, if not downright snakebit. He definitely didn’t “project a sense of calm.”

A Raw Story commenter:

I think he looks like, “Holy fuck! That sonofabitch Richard Clarke was right. He warned me about this in the August 6 Presidential Daily Briefing and I ignored him. My presidency is OVER. They’re gonna impeach my ass over this. I wonder if I’ll be sent to prison?”

August 6, 2001 PDB

  1. #1 by brewski on July 29, 2011 - 10:01 pm

    So let me ask you Richard, if you were the president and you get this memo on August 6, 2001, what do you do?

  2. #2 by Larry Bergan on July 29, 2011 - 11:03 pm

    Rupert Murdoch owns the “National Geographic Channel” brewski. Do you think that might have had an impact on Bush’s decision to give an interview?

    Rupert Murdoch…

    Rupert Murdoch…

    Seems like I’ve heard that name in the news fairly recently…

    Something about a child or something.

  3. #3 by Larry Bergan on July 29, 2011 - 11:06 pm

    Had to be a white child, I’m thinking…

  4. #4 by Larry Bergan on July 29, 2011 - 11:23 pm

    I’m trying to think, but I don’t know. What FINALLY caused the UK to go after Murdock after all these years of attacking the Royal Family and literally everybody else in his filthy tabloids. What was the breaking point?

    Why is the American media ignoring the story to the best of their ability?

    Honestly! Can anybody tell me?

  5. #5 by Larry Bergan on July 29, 2011 - 11:37 pm

    brewski said:

    So let me ask you Richard, if you were the president and you get this memo on August 6, 2001, what do you do?

    I guess we’d have to know what three “services” were redacted from the famous memo. CIA perhaps, (Daddy’s organization)? At the time, many CIA agents were beginning to question what sonny-boy was doing.

    Of course I have no way of knowing who was redacted from that memo, but neither do you.

  6. #6 by cav on July 29, 2011 - 11:38 pm

    Bush had already handed off the ‘terrorism’ duties to the always very effective Richard Cheney. He’d been besieged with the threat of culpability in the Enron affair, had begun to feel that presidentin’ was hard work – harder than clearing brush at his mock ranch in Texas. But he knew enough to suggest the agents presenting the briefing had done their duties…they were off the hook by presidential decree. While he had a minute, he much preferred hacking away at the bushes ’cause he knew all too well – his schedulers would soon have him reading childrens books in distant classrooms, or hosting fundraisers in still other places, or doing tea with some foreigner he could care less about – those schedulers were brutal, but not as brutal as Mohamad Atta would prove to be. It would take him a while to figure that one out.

  7. #7 by Larry Bergan on July 30, 2011 - 12:04 am

    As long as the “National Geographic Channel” is in the hands of Murdoch, they should stick to what Americans always loved about the original publication: Great photos of the world and naked, (mostly), black people which served to give the impression that it was OK to see black people naked, but not others. Subliminal messages are powerful.

    I’m sure there must be many pictures of people which the photographers wanted published.

    Oh well.

    The destruction of people and landscapes can be the worst pornography, but probably not by definition.

  8. #8 by cav on July 30, 2011 - 12:15 am

    President Gore would have been impeached after 9/11, even if he had prevented it.

    “Vice President Lieberman.”

    Think about that for a second.

  9. #9 by Larry Bergan on July 30, 2011 - 1:02 am

    Oh, I’ve thought about that for more then a second and I’m almost glad Gore got taken out by an imbecile who will be exposed by time.

    But that doesn’t diminish my respect for the man who won the 2000 election.

    THAT guy could give a speech that made sense AND could have picked a vice president without the help of the PTB’d. I guess it wasn’t his time somehow. :(

    Powers-that-be can be pretty goddamed ruthless, especially if the masses don’t understand what they’re doing. There’s no doubt that we didn’t. I thought Lie-berman was a decent fellow at the time.

    Jesus!

  10. #10 by Rico on July 30, 2011 - 7:52 am

    W is a total tool and a liar, but being as reasonably objective as I can when it comes to him, I would have been shitting a brick too if someone just whispered into my ear while sitting in front of a bunch of school kids that terrorists in 747s had just taken down the twin towers. I’d be like “Holy fuck! Now what do I do?”

    Then again, I’ve never been Presidential material either.

  11. #11 by Richard Warnick on July 30, 2011 - 8:07 am

    Fair question:

    So let me ask you Richard, if you were the president and you get this memo on August 6, 2001, what do you do?

    At the very least, you could ask the FBI and CIA if they know of any al-Qaeda operatives who are already in the USA (as it turns out, they had Moussaoui in custody, and knew about the two hijackers living in San Diego who had told acquaintances about the plan).

    You could warn airport security officials about al-Qaeda. The way that you prevent planes from being hijacked and flown into buildings is the same way that you prevent hijackings in general.

    What President Bush did:

    Monday, August 6
    4-mile run, built nature walk in canyon, fishing.

    Tuesday, August 7
    Golf.
    3-mile run.
    Fishing, cookout with Mel Martinez.

    Wednesday, August 8
    Habitat for Humanity, Waco, TX (injured finger).
    Worked out with weights.

    Thursday, August 9
    Jogging, fishing, announced stem cell decision (9pm EST).

    Sunday, August 12
    Church near Crawford.

    Monday, August 13
    Golf, signed agriculture bill with audience of farmers.

    Tuesday, August 14, 2001
    Thinned brush and raised money at a picnic in Colorado.
    Talked to children at YMCA camp in Colorado.

    Wednesday, August 15, 2001
    Talked to children in Albuquerque, opened job-training center, addressed Chamber of Commerce, attended fundraiser for Sen. Domenici, Colorado Rockies v. Atlanta Braves.

    Saturday, August 18, 2001
    Radio address re: faith-based initiatives.

    Monday, August 20, 2001
    Addressed VFW Convention, toured Harley-Davidson plant, Milwaukee.
    Work out, dinner with friends.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2001
    Truman High School, Independence, MO re: taxes.

    Wednesday, August 22, 2001
    Ran, lifted weights.

    Thursday, August 23, 2001
    Golf, Crawford Elementary School, met with horticulturalist re: trees on ranch.

    Friday, August 24, 2001
    Press conference re: economy (1st press conference of vacation).

    Saturday, August 25, 2001
    Ranch tour for the press (80 minutes).

    Sunday, August 26, 2001
    Steel Plant in Pennsylvania, barbeque.
    Little League World Series Championship (Japan v. Florida).

    Wednesday, August 29, 2001
    Spoke at an American Legion Convention re: military budget, tax cut.
    Dedicated a restored grist mill, San Antonio.

  12. #12 by Martel on July 30, 2011 - 8:10 am

    Where are you guys at? We have Biden for a veep. There is no difference in presidencies other than your perceptions.

    I miss the blatant dishonesty of Bush and his forgiveable bumbling based on his perceived lack of intelligence. So much more forthright than the slimy Chicago brand we are dealing with now. Obama’s bumbling less forgiveable as he claims intelligence, though it is only an illusion. There will be no presidents with great intelligence or integrity. They are just the oligarchy’s mouthpieces.

  13. #13 by Richard Warnick on July 30, 2011 - 8:59 am

    I’m a frequent critic of President Obama and his administration, but bumbling is not one of his faults.

  14. #14 by Martel on July 30, 2011 - 9:38 am

    He’s not a bumbler? That is funny. He has in a single handed way managed to take the largest advantage Democrats have owned since FDR and pissed it away in 3 short years. No one is a bigger fu*k up in that regard in living memory. So yeah, he owns the mantle of “bumbler” in chief.

  15. #15 by brewski on July 30, 2011 - 10:28 am

    you could warn airport security officials about al-Qaeda. The way that you prevent planes from being hijacked and flown into buildings is the same way that you prevent hijackings in general.

    What would cause you to focus on airports? There is nothing in the memo to suggest this. Why not focus on all rental trucks, and all trains, and all underground parking garages and all semi-trucks and all Muslims in the US including US citizen Muslims (which the memo does specify) and while we are at it focus on all dams and power stations and utility lines and chemical plants and water systems and all oil and gas pipelines and all schools and all universities.

    As for the 2 in San Diego, there are thousands of tips and people under suspicion every day so in foresight there was nothing which made these 2 stand out over all the other thousands of similar people.

    So the point is, this memo does not tell you, Mr. President, anything that you and the entire intelligence community that they didn’t already know, and it also certainly doesn’t tell you anything specific that you could prepare for or prevent.

    Should airport security have been better? Sure, it had always been a joke. Anyone who had traveled to the UK (with its IRA problems) or Israel could see immediately how weak our air security was and always had been.

  16. #16 by Martel on July 30, 2011 - 11:07 am

    Why not call it what it is, a steaming pile of BS, and its related stench?

    If your enemy isn’t in your country blowing stuff and killing your people everyday, it isn’t much of any enemy. The fear factor in all this “terror” nonsense is so palpable. When will American’s stand up and say enough of it?

    Profiling is key in finding criminals, we certainly are not at “war” with the admitted 300 members of al queda. What an embarrassment that we have stunted ourselves so much for so little.

  17. #17 by Tim Carter on July 30, 2011 - 1:07 pm

    Bushs reaction, or lack of, is bullshit. The real question is where the hell was the secret service??? After everyone knew the first tower had been hit, Andy Card walks up to the president and states “America is under attack”. His words.

    And the secret service just stands there? Really? The “football” is just feet away from the president at all times, and they just stand there and let stay there for the next half an hour, even hold a press conference at the school. How did the secret service assume the president was not a target at that time? How did they make that call?

  18. #18 by Tim Carter on July 30, 2011 - 1:38 pm

    Live broadcast on FOX that morning as the first tower burned and the world watched the second plane slam into the second tower, the FOX commentator blurts out Bin Ladens name in speculation of ‘whodunnit’ within ten seconds of the live second attack.

  19. #19 by Richard Warnick on July 31, 2011 - 4:45 pm

    bewski–

    I assume you haven’t read the 9/11 Commission’s report or other reports that mentioned the San Diego pair of hijackers, because you wrote:

    “…there was nothing which made these 2 stand out over all the other thousands of similar people.”

    The CIA knew Nawaf Alhamzi and Khalid Al-Midhar attended an al-Qaeda planning meeting in Malaysia in January 2000, and knew they were in California. The FBI wasn’t informed, or possibly failed to recognize the importance of the two in a list provided by the CIA (accounts differ).

    It wasn’t until Aug. 23, 2001, that Alhamzi and Al-Midhar were added to the terrorist watch list that is distributed to the FBI, the State Department and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

    Meanwhile, the two future hijackers actually rented rooms in the house of a San Diego FBI informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, a leader at the local mosque, who also helped get them a computer and a car. Had Shaikh known they were of interest to the FBI, he could have passed on the information that they made a trip to Phoenix, to meet up with another 9/11 hijacker, Hani Hanjour (who was attending flight school).

  20. #20 by brewski on July 31, 2011 - 9:26 pm

    So what you are saying is that some critical pieces of information which were not in the memo would have spurred you to action, mr president, based on things that you didn’t know.

  21. #21 by Larry Bergan on July 31, 2011 - 9:42 pm

    Tim Carter:

    It didn’t take many seconds more for the pop media to exclaim who attacked us. It was almost like somebody already knew who was going to attack us, but nobody was able to stop them. :(

    Big-ass questions still remain.

  22. #22 by Richard Warnick on July 31, 2011 - 9:49 pm

    What I am saying is that if the President of the United States made it a top priority of the CIA, FBI etc. to identify individuals who might be preparing an al-Qaeda terrorist attack in the U.S., then that order might have averted the events of September 11, 2001.

    For example, when Zacarias Moussaoui was arrested by the FBI on immigration charges August 16, the FBI agents who were suspicious about his flight training might have gotten a hearing at HQ. It’s hard to find something if you’re not looking, but if you are looking…

  23. #23 by brewski on August 1, 2011 - 9:19 am

    Well, yes. And if my mother had wheels she would be a tram.

  24. #24 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 11:57 am

    So Richard and Brewski-

    Why were the secret service working under the assumption that the president was not a target that morning while the rest of America watching the live media event thought they were witnessing the start of WWIII or many other wild speculations with reports of multiple highjackings that morning.

    How could they just let him stay there while Flight 77 was on a direct path towards Washington DC?

    I thinks it’s cute he didn’t want to upset the 40+ kids in the classroom that morning while tens of thousands of other kids across the nations were freaking out watching adults freak out over the images and events unfolding live that morning.

  25. #25 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 12:03 pm

    Tim–

    Why are you working under the assumption that the Secret Service is 100 percent competent at all times? This is how conspiracy theories get started, because some people do not understand that mistakes are common during rapidly evolving, confusing situations. IMHO the Secret Service over-compensated later that same day by hiding our President in an underground bunker in Nebraska. That was really dumb.

  26. #26 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 12:10 pm

    I am working under the assumption the secret service has strict protocol it works under when there is even the silightest threat to an American president.

    There was plenty of evidence of threat that morning.

  27. #27 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 12:14 pm

    Come clean, Tim. What theory are you hinting at? MIHOP or LIHOP?

  28. #28 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 12:23 pm

    Cute categories Richard.

    Now how about asking a few real questions about what went down that day.

  29. #29 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 12:30 pm

    That’s what always happens here at One Utah. After hinting at 9/11 government conspiracy theories and getting called on it, folks retreat to a “just asking questions” dodge.

  30. #30 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 12:38 pm

    I see the same thing Richard.

    When someone asks a valid question, guys like you cry ‘conspiracy theorist’ and everyones eyes glaze over and another rational discussion ends.

  31. #31 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 12:42 pm

    The short answer is simple. Secret Service was caught flat-footed. It happens. Sure, there are contingency plans in case of a threat to the President, but there was no indication that Bush was a target on September 11, 2001. Our information to date suggests he was not.

    We can get further into this, but first tell me you’ve read the 9/11 Commission Report so we have a basis for discussion.

  32. #32 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 1:17 pm

    The short answer is simple. Secret Service was caught flat-footed. It happens. Sure, there are contingency plans in case of a threat to the President, but there was no indication that Bush was a target on September 11, 2001. Our information to date suggests he was not.

    No indication? Andy Card walks up to the president at 9:06 and whispers “America is under attack”. An apparent sneak attack that our government didn’t see coming. The SS is well aware of this also. No indication? At 9:06 the SS has no basis to make the decision the president is not a target. So….. one of them walks over to the window and looked outside and saw nothing?

    Which 9/11 Commision report? I liked comic book version best.

    http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2006-08-21-9-11-report-book_x.htm

  33. #33 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 2:01 pm

    Richard Clarke saw an al-Qaeda attack coming, and so did most of the other counter-terrorism people. But as Clinton holdovers, they were unable to command the attention of Bush administration appointees such as Condi Rice.

    From your link:

    Colón tried to read the 568-page report when it was released but gave up after about 50 pages. “For a government report, it was well written,” he says, “but still hard to follow — lots of Arabic names, and a lot of things going on at the same time in different places.”

    Thus the comic-book version, for people who found the original report hard to follow. At least I assume you read the entire comic book.

    If you read the History Commons timeline (short, with pictures), you will learn that the first reports of a plane crash at the WTC led people to believe it was an accident. Therefore, not an obvious threat to the President.

    Please tell me you disagree with this conspiracy theory.

  34. #34 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 2:16 pm

    I get where you are going Richard, but lets try and stick to the current thread: Bush/Secret Service non-reaction that morning.

  35. #35 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 2:37 pm

    The History Commons timeline explains that, after learning that a terrorist attack was happening, President Bush wanted time to find out more info and give a brief speech before leaving the elementary school.

    The Secret Service won’t say who made the decision not to rush Bush immediately to Air Force One. Possibly they were overruled.

    So tell me the 9/11 attacks were not a U.S. government conspiracy, and we can talk about Bush’s deer-in-headlights reaction, which is the subject of this post.

  36. #36 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 2:40 pm

    I’ve read the History Commons timeline. And yes, everyone thought the first plane crash was an accident, even the president stated he did when he saw it before entering the classroom that morning.
    That ended abrubtly at 9;03 when the second plane hit the second tower. All bets were off at that moment. Apparently no one knew WTF was going on. Andy Card summed it up in his whisper to the president: America is under attack.

    And the president just sits there, and the Secret Service charged with his safety just stand there…. for the next thirty minutes.

  37. #37 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 2:44 pm

    Bush, was a bad leader with practically no knowledge of foreign affairs or national security. He needed thirty minutes to understand what he was being told, and he was probably waiting for someone to tell him what to do. I think that’s obvious. It’s clear from the History Commons timeline that communications were better at the school than in the Presidential motorcade or aboard Air Force One.

  38. #38 by brewski on August 1, 2011 - 2:47 pm

    was a bad leader with practically no knowledge of foreign affairs or national security

    I thought you were talking about Obama.

  39. #39 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 2:50 pm

    I was just thinking, what this discussion needs is a dose of gratuitous hyper-partisanship.

  40. #40 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 2:56 pm

    Bush, was a bad leader with practically no knowledge of foreign affairs or national security. He needed thirty minutes to understand what he was being told, and he was probably waiting for someone to tell him what to do. I think that’s obvious. It’s clear from the History Commons timeline that communications were better at the school than in the Presidential motorcade or aboard Air Force One.

    I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a say in his security when there is a threat. That is superceeded by national security; Get the president and the launch codes in the fucking limo NOW.

    Communications were crystal clear at the classroom at 9;05: “America is under attack”.

  41. #41 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 3:21 pm

    Tim–

    Well, we know what you would have done as head of the Secret Service detail, with the benefit of hindsight. That information is worthless to an understanding of what happened on September 11, 2001.

  42. #42 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 3:26 pm

    Bullshit Richard. That is standing protocol and we both know it. Why did it lapse that morning?

  43. #43 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 3:28 pm

    We may never know, unless someone in the Secret Service writes a book in years to come. Meanwhile, I am waiting for you to reassure me you don’t believe the Bush administration launched the 9/11 attacks.

  44. #44 by Tim Carter on August 1, 2011 - 3:40 pm

    “We may never know, unless someone in the Secret Service writes a book in years to come. Meanwhile, I am waiting for you to reassure me you don’t believe the Bush administration launched the 9/11 attacks”

    Show us in your “9/11 bible” where this is addressed and their conclusions:

    http://www.amazon.com/11-Report-Graphic-Adaptation/dp/0809057387#reader_0809057387

  45. #45 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 4:43 pm

    Pages 38-39 of the 9/11 Commission Report (PDF) (not the comic book).

    Please tell me you don’t believe the U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks.

  46. #46 by brewski on August 1, 2011 - 6:20 pm

    You mean Martin Sheen is wrong?

  47. #47 by Richard Warnick on August 1, 2011 - 9:00 pm

    I think you mean Charlie Sheen. Big difference. ;-)

  48. #48 by Larry Bergan on August 1, 2011 - 9:56 pm

    Now that I’ve pages 38-39 of the Omission Commission report, I’m convinced! There’s no way a government commission appointed by George W. Bush’s administration would ever lie to us, make stuff up, or leave stuff out. :)

    Honestly, Richard, you are the smartest guy on the block, but on this issue, you seem to be in outer space somewhere.

    I lean toward “helped it happen”, but until a decent report is made with at least the effort that was put into finding out if Clinton got a blow job, I’m not committing.

    I WILL admit that I am a conspiracy theorist, and proud of it.

  49. #49 by Larry Bergan on August 1, 2011 - 10:02 pm

    The Rupert Murdoch/National Geographic Channel is obviously going to white wash the whole 911 story and make shit up, like they always do.

  50. #50 by Richard Warnick on August 2, 2011 - 7:51 am

    Larry–

    Your honesty is appreciated. And thanks for reading part of the 9/11 Commission Report.

  51. #51 by Larry Bergan on August 2, 2011 - 2:48 pm

    Three other books I tried and failed to read:

    The Book of Mormon.
    The Bible.
    The Dictionary.

    Didn’t read the Starr Report either, and it was – like the Bible – reportedly salacious.

  52. #52 by Tim Carter on August 2, 2011 - 5:41 pm

    Richard-

    OK. I don’t believe all of the official story. I didn’t see an acronym for that on your Wiki link. You don’t mind if we look at your theories on this for minute, do you? It looks like you have them boiled down to two:

    #1=DPOSSP: Dumbass President Overides Strict Secret Service Protocol

    It goes something like this:

    Secret Service Agent: Mr. President, as you know, America is under attack. I think we should go.

    President Bush: Calm down, son. We need to project focus, not fear.

    SSA: Too late, Sir. The nation/world is watching it live on T.V. Millions watched the second attack live. I think it’s safe to say people are fuuucking panicking.

    Bush: Errrr….well, I meant to these kids in the room

    SSA: That is very admirable sir. But there are hundreds of thousands other kids out there who probably have a steamin’ load in their pants right about now.

    Bush: Wow. Alot to think about…..Not. sure. what. what. to. do.

    SSA: Believe me, Sir. You can think in the limo. We have reports of multiple hijackings. The safe bet is to get you secured.

    Bush: Son. Reallly. Give me about anhalf an hour to get my head around this….

    SSA: It may take longer than that, Sir. The FAA and military in chaos. No one knows anything for sure. Please. You are the leader of the free world and we are under attack. My orders are to keep you safe.

    Bush: Uuuuhhhh…. no.

    SSA: Please, Sir. Just get in the limo…

    Bush: Nope. I gotta write a speech tellin’ the American people we aren’t gonna stand for this.

    SSA: Sir! “This” may not even be over yet. Remember the multiple highjackings part?

    Bush: Nope. I gotta console the American people.

    SSA: Sir. I’d rather we did that from another location. One that hasn’t been telegraphed to potential enemies for the last 2 months. Really, Sir, think of the children. If you are a target there is likely to be collateral damage….

    Bush: Uhhhh….. which kids again?

    SSA: (points)

    Bush: Errr… Right. Those ones.

    SSA: Great! Thank you, Sir. O.K. Off we go…

    Bush: I’m not goin’

    SSA: C’mon. Please?

    Bush: Huh-uh.

    SSA: Pretty please?

    Bush: Nope. I’m the Decider. I’m stayin’

    SSA: Sir. I’m watching my career being flushed down the toilet as we speak.

    Bush: Don’t worry, son. If anyone ever investigates this, I’ll make sure your name doesn’t come up. Now, stand down.

  53. #53 by Tim Carter on August 2, 2011 - 5:52 pm

    #2= SSAIN: Secret Service Agents Are Incompetent Nincompoops

    It goes something like this:

    Secret Service Agent #1: Hey Beavis, did you see those buildings those planes flew into in New… New…. uuuuhhhh somewhere?

    Secret Service Agent #2: Yeeeaaah. FIRE! heh-heh-heh FIRE! FIRE!

  54. #54 by Larry Bergan on August 2, 2011 - 6:16 pm

    Tim:

    Truly funny stuff!

    Richard:

    From the pages you told us to look at from the official 911 retort in relation to the pet goat gathering:

    The president felt he should project strength and calm until he could better understand what was happening.

    By sitting there listening to readings of “The Pet Goat”?

    I’m not saying governor Bush wasn’t trying to understand what was happening, but I not so sure Michael Moore’s voice-over wasn’t accurate. We need testimony where Bush is under oath and not sitting on Dick Cheney’s, (also not under oath), figurative lap. Wouldn’t you agree?

  55. #55 by Richard Warnick on August 2, 2011 - 6:24 pm

    Tim, thanks for that dramatic presentation. Aside from the disrespectful language, it could have happened. Although it’s more likely Karl Rove or Andy Card would be arguing with the head of the Secret Service detail.

    If you read the History Commons timeline, it is clear that communications were better at the school than in the motorcade or aboard Air Force One. However the decision was made, it’s a defensible one because the first priority was to figure out what was going on.

    I would have liked to see President Bush testify under oath, but I think we know he would never do that for a commission whose formation he opposed. So they took what they could get. Anyhow, if Larry’s theory is correct, there is no way Bush would confess to being a traitor — oath or no oath. He’s not a smart man, but seriously…

  56. #56 by tim carter on August 2, 2011 - 9:03 pm

    Richard

    Card and the nation saw exactly what was going on. America is under attack.

    Secret Service Priority #1: Secure the President

  57. #57 by Richard Warnick on August 2, 2011 - 9:28 pm

    They did secure the President, although IMHO we might have been better off without his brand of leadership. They took him to an underground bunker in freaking Nebraska.

  58. #58 by Tim Carter on August 3, 2011 - 12:44 pm

    I’m still having a problem with the premise that the presidents safety is up for debate in time of crisis. At the moment it was clearly a national security issue.

  59. #59 by Richard Warnick on August 3, 2011 - 1:00 pm

    I’ve got no White House experience, but I know in the military sometimes doing your job comes before personal safety. Is it really a good idea for the commander-in-chief and his staff to be out of communication in a fast-developing national security crisis? According to the History Commons timeline, the Secret Service had 49 extra phone lines installed at that school. Contrast with what happened after Bush left the school:

    After departing the Booker Elementary School, President Bush experiences problems trying to communicate with the White House. On his way to Air Force One, he is unable to get a secure phone line to Dick Cheney, and has to rely instead on using a borrowed cell phone. According to the CBC, even this cell phone doesn’t work. Lee Hamilton, vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, claims the difficulty is because the members of Bush’s entourage, all suddenly trying to call Washington, create a “communication jam.”

  60. #60 by Tim Carter on August 3, 2011 - 1:25 pm

    FOX EXCLUSIVE: DPOSSP Alternate ending

    (Jack Bauer Extended Remix)

    Jack Bauer: (walking into room) Why isn’t the president in the limo?

    Karl Rove: Well, wer’e still in the middle of a photo op…

    JB: Mr. Rove, I’m sure you are aware the crisis this country is in at this time. We need to secure the president as quickly as possible.
    (turning to president)

    JB: Mr. President, my name is Jack Bauer. I have been assigned to this security detail that is responsible for your safety at this location. I’m sure you are aware of the events in New York this morning.

    Bush: Yes, it was…

    JB: ….Tragic, yes sir. Due to the events unfolding in New York and other questions we have we have to assume you could be the target of another attack. We have no indication of that at this time, but we have no way of verifying otherwise. Based on the facts available to me at this time I have to assume this location has been comprimised and it is no longer safe for you to stay here. Sir, in my judgement, we have to leave now.

    Bush: But what about my speech….

    JB: Sir, I do not believe it is prudent to issue a statement from this location at this time. I really think we should go.

    Bush: But…. the children…

    JB: MR. PRESIDENT! We need to go now! Millions of Americans maybe depending on you. This is a matter of national security and is not up for debate. My orders are to keep you safe, and I intend to carryout those orders by any means possible. If my judgement is wrong, I’m prepared to face the consequences at a later date. But right now it is my determination you may be in danger here. Mr. President get in the limo or I will put you there. THAT decision is yours.

    Rove: Hey now..

    JB: Mr. Rove, we are in the process securing the president right now. If you you try to impead or disrupt that process, I will bitch-slap you into a bloody puddle of unrecognizable human tissue. Do I make myself clear!!?

    Rove: mew

    JB: Mr President get in the limo. Now.

    Bush: mew

  61. #61 by Richard Warnick on August 3, 2011 - 1:34 pm

    No, no. Jack Bauer would have killed the President and cut off his head with a hacksaw. Because it turns out he’s in league with the terrorists. On “24,” you can’t trust anybody, except maybe Chloe O’Brian back at CTU — Jack will call her to order up schematics of the school.

  62. #62 by Larry Bergan on August 3, 2011 - 4:14 pm

    I never watched “24” but I believe Bush and Cheney must face a legitimate judge and jury.

    Fair and balanced,

  63. #63 by Tim Carter on August 3, 2011 - 4:48 pm

    Richard

    Now you’re just being absurd. Anyone who has seen the show knows that JB will only act on the intel that is available to him at the time. He has been compartmentalized.

    He won’t even suspect anything is up until he learns a relatively slow moving plane is allowed to hit the Pentagon in our nations capital, with no air defense, on a day that everyone is aware that our nation is under attack since 9:03 EST. He also is aware of the protocols and redundancies involved with our nations capital defense and in place since the cold war. It seems odd to him that a military that has spent trillions on defense and has had 40+ years of cold war preparation, could turn into a bunch of bumbling slapasses overnight.

    He won’t be able to start putting the pieces together until next season. (or thread)

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