So They Say We (OWS) Do Not Have Demands. Let’s Make a List

I’m not going to argue spewing any paragraph before making the list. You all know what I am talking about. But help grow the list by commenting.

1. Tax the rich. Now that’s fucking unique. I must be a creative genius to come up with something THAT revolutionary.

2. Stop exporting jobs. A little complex, but you can’t abandon industry especially when a nation is industrialized. Also the jobs in places like India and Thailand are not jobs, they are serfs.

3. Get rid of the idiotic credit ratings that go up based on having multiple lines of credit. In all honesty, it should be the opposite if we want to base it off of faith in a person’s credit

4. Alleviate student debt.

5. Improve safety regulations.

6. Improve airports. Repair them, improve the radar, improve the ILS and most importantly, improve air traffic control so that it’s safer to bunch planes together.

7. Give us a high speed rail. Flying from Salt Lake to Elko is like driving from your couch to the fridge. The fewer the regional flights, the better off the airlines and your flying experience will be.

8. Stop giving businesses citizenship.

9. Make a donation limit.

10. Stop sending people my age to die in a country we have no business being in and expect my generation to pick up the tab after you die.

11. While we’re at it, why don’t we make the market slightly more laissez-faire? You can disagree if you want, but if you have a Japanese car company that makes 40 year old cars feel like they were off the assembly line yesterday without ever getting it serviced while an American car company makes cars that are planned to fail 3 years down the road, then sorry, your product can’t compete. The only reason they are in business is because they lobbied congress to even the battleground.

Any other ideas? I’m probably just scratching the surface.


  1. #1 by Richard Warnick on November 28, 2011 - 1:13 pm

    Here’s a list that appeared on Daily Kos the week before last:

    I keep hearing from people that Occupy Wall Street protests don’t have a clear message, so here is a short rundown of the “message” as far as I have seen.

    It is time to TAX THE RICH

    It is time to END THE WARS

    It is time to restore Glass-Steagal

    It is time to repeal Citizens United

    It is time to get the money OUT OF POLITICS

    It is time to invest in infrastructure and education

    It is time to STOP busting labor unions, whether private or public

    It is time to defend Medicare and Social Security tooth and nail from phony reforms or baloney cuts

    It is time to STOP the spending cuts and start investing in America, and if we have to raise taxes on the rich and corporations in order to force them to invest in America, then so be it.

    It is time to STOP the racist and discriminatory practice of “Stop and Frisk” and other tactics of racial profiling

    It is time for civil rights for ALL, and that means equal rights for LGBT Americans to serve our military and marry whom ever they will

    It is time for ACCOUNTABILITY for the men who lied us into war and crashed our economy

    It is time for immigration reform that does not punish workers, but provides a clear pathway to citizenship for everyone

    It is time for investigations that lead to prosecutions on Wall Street in response to the crimes that have been committed in the last decade.

    It is time for a serious discussion about the Federal Reserve and its role in this economic disaster

    It is time for universal health care that everyone can afford. It is time to talk about Single Payer Health Care.

    It is time for alternative green energy instead of Oil and Coal.

    It is time to protect our civil liberties and our constitution.

    It is time for a discussion about free trade and how it has undermined the working class while enriching only the wealthiest among us.

    It is time to end corporate personhood.

    There are sooooo many things that need to be fixed, reformed and addressed, and this short list does not do justice to the many grievances that the 99% have, but we must accept the fact that the GOP only serves the rich and the Dem Establishment only serves to cave to the GOP. They are NOT going to help us. We are going to have to do this ourselves.

    I especially like the idea of accountability. We now know that the bank bailouts in addition to TARP topped $7.77 TRILLION, with no strings attached. Imagine if students could get interest-free loans like Wall Street billionaires can.

  2. #2 by cav on November 28, 2011 - 5:36 pm

    OWS scares the Dems just like the ‘baggers scared the Thugs. They KNOW it’s their failure to rein in the 1% that led to these massive protests.

  3. #3 by Shane on November 28, 2011 - 6:34 pm

    Pretty good list. Rather than add to it, as it deserves, comments. That is just who i am. If you had made a list of complaints i would be pragmatic. This list is pretty pragmatic, so i will complain. A little. Not much.

    1. Tax the Rich

    Sounds good. I need details though. Pure opinion, but i would say the place to start raising is about $250,000 a year. Around that point (maybe lower) the taxes start looking just silly. And I further suggest the taxes remain progessive in that the higher levels are taxed higher. If you can honestly claim a billion a year in income you should be able to pay a good solid 75% or more. Any comments?

    2. More than a little complex. They aren’t even serfs at the rate we export jobs, it is slavery. But that also means we can’t shop walmart for cheap plastic shit. The “no really America is a wealthy country because they import cheap junk” argument needs to stop. And if we stop buying useless crap we can fix a lot of other economic issues as well. But that number alone is multiple books of discussion…

    3. OK

    4. This is a serious issue. It isn’t just student debt that we should care about, it is the higher education system. Why should we consider dropping student debt? There are a lot of good reasons. Very good reasons. And all of those same reasons are reasons to have publicly funded education. So why charge for it at all? Why discuss paying for student loans right now? Why not always?

    5. Depending on which regulations you have in mind, many of them don’t need to be improved, just actually inforced.

    Lets start there for discussion, maybe the others will come up.

    Richard, I like that list too. Most of those relate directly to either Nathans list or the resons I am picking on it. Maybe we can shuffle them together…

  4. #4 by cav on November 28, 2011 - 7:40 pm

    I’ve student always wondered why student loan debt holders don’t just pay them off with credit cards, then default on the CC debt.

  5. #5 by Miles Standish on November 28, 2011 - 7:42 pm

    They KNOW it’s their failure to rein in the 1% that led to these massive protests.

    They are the 1% so why would they rein them in?

  6. #6 by cav on November 29, 2011 - 9:16 am

    They are our ‘representatives’! How can they not?

    I live in a dream.

  7. #7 by cav on November 29, 2011 - 9:19 am

    As part of the austerity movement sweeping the elites who rule the globe you are no longer allowed to say “Good morning.” You must say “Ood mornin.” Failure to do so might make a bankster lose his bonus which is an inviolate contract unlike social security and other pension funds.

    I blame the ‘Boomers’.

  8. #8 by Larry Bergan on November 29, 2011 - 8:00 pm

    Hand mark and hand count our ballots in public. Post the results on each voting precinct door before the ballots are moved.

    Videos allowed.

    Plus it would save a plethora of money!

  9. #9 by cav on November 29, 2011 - 10:41 pm

    This !

  10. #10 by Nathan Erkkila on November 29, 2011 - 11:08 pm

    Love the idea, larry.

  11. #11 by Larry Bergan on November 30, 2011 - 3:56 pm

    Thanks Nathan – and again – I apologize for being an idiot and flying off the handle the other day.

    Actually that plan evolved on BradBlog after years of him trying to work with politicians who just wouldn’t let go of the voting machines and only tried to come up with legislation that would make us THINK a problem had been solved.

    It would save a bunch of money and convince older people who had been active in vote counting to return. The machines are heavy and confusing to them.

  12. #12 by Larry Bergan on November 30, 2011 - 4:10 pm


    I’d like you to read my “open letter to bill gates“, which I originally put in the comments section of BradBlog I commented on almost every thread of that blog around 2006 for over a year. I was thrilled to have Brad actually show up in the comments section. If you have time, the link to Peter B. Collins’s show is still good and features a true expert in the movement to get rid of the machines; Mark Crispin Miller.

    So just know that I was bitching at Mr. Bill too. Actually, I was involved in fighting the machines here before BradBlog existed. My passion about this has been at a very high level for a long time.

  13. #13 by cav on November 30, 2011 - 5:41 pm

    $16 trillion gift for tptb = poof. $15 trillion national debt = fubar

  14. #14 by Larry Bergan on November 30, 2011 - 7:32 pm


    Is this what you’re talking about:

    Absolutely outrageous. Equally amazing they were able to pass a bill to audit the fed.

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