It’s only taken them three plus years to figure it out but the mainstream media seems to finally be waking up to the fact that the Republican party has gone so far to the right as to have become the problem in American politics. Witness this article from Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein.
They lay out the problem:
We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.
They lay the blame at the feet of Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist, whose political strategies have excited and awakened an intransigent, ideologically rigid base, empowered that base and in turn created a feedback loop in which Republicans move ever further to the right.
Today, thanks to the GOP, compromise has gone out the window in Washington. In the first two years of the Obama administration, nearly every presidential initiative met with vehement, rancorous and unanimous Republican opposition in the House and the Senate, followed by efforts to delegitimize the results and repeal the policies. The filibuster, once relegated to a handful of major national issues in a given Congress, became a routine weapon of obstruction, applied even to widely supported bills or presidential nominations. And Republicans in the Senate have abused the confirmation process to block any and every nominee to posts such as the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, solely to keep laws that were legitimately enacted from being implemented.
Think about that final point – Republicans are doing everything in their power to prevent laws from being implemented. They’re not arguing for changing them or fixing them, they’re abusing longstanding ways of doing things to illegitimately block legitimately enacted laws. They’re abusing the system to keep it from working.
The GOP’s evolution has become too much for some longtime Republicans. Former senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska called his party “irresponsible” in an interview with the Financial Times in August, at the height of the debt-ceiling battle. “I think the Republican Party is captive to political movements that are very ideological, that are very narrow,” he said. “I’ve never seen so much intolerance as I see today in American politics.”
And Mike Lofgren, a veteran Republican congressional staffer, wrote an anguished diatribe last year about why he was ending his career on the Hill after nearly three decades. “The Republican Party is becoming less and less like a traditional political party in a representative democracy and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult, or one of the intensely ideological authoritarian parties of 20th century Europe,” he wrote on the Truthout Web site.
Lofgren’s point is striking to me. Republicans constantly bag on Europe but they have become more like one of its extremist parties than a traditional Americans political party. In the past, I’ve used the term fundamentalist for the Republicans – they’ve become political fundamentalists, insistent on seeing only one distorted version of history, adhering to a rigid ideological standard, rejecting other ways of seeing the world as illegitimate. They’ve adopted a fundamentalist mindset and all the behaviors that go with it, including a tendency to see everyone who disagrees as enemies and absolute rejection of pluralism.
The Republicans have gone insane and they intend to drag the rest of along with them. Mann and Ornstein end their article with a call for the mainstream media to actually do their jobs as journalists, to eschew the false “both sides do it” tendencies and to actually give voters accurate information. The mainstream cult of balance is unlikely to heed the call but we can hope.
#1 by brewski on April 28, 2012 - 9:04 am
Apparently Messers Mann and Ornstein forgot the period Jan 2009 – Jan 2011. During this time there in effect was no Republican Party and the Dems could do whatever they wanted to do. They could have closed all the corporate welfare in the tax code, they could have reformed our health care system, they could have reformed earmark abuse, they could have set some sort of standard for ethics and political behavior. What did they do?
1. They disgusted the American electorate by bribing and corrupting the worst bill in the history of the United States which a wide majority of the people did not want.
http://ap-gfkpoll.com/uncategorized/latest-poll-findings-2
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30877.html
2. They sold their soul to the hedge fund industry.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/06/AR2007110602313.html
3. They passed a fake “stimulus” which destroyed jobs.
http://web.econ.ohio-state.edu/dupor/arra10_may11.pdf
4. They horrified the American electorate so much, that they were thrown out of office in one of the largest landslides in history which was only not larger due to the GOP nominating several very flawed candidates who were still able to give some Dem incumbents a scare. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2010/1103/After-GOP-landslide-of-Election-2010-what-next-for-Obama
So how is the corruption and incompetence of the Dems all the fault of the Republicans? How is the American people’s demonstrated disgust with the Democrats and their tactics the fault of the GOP? This is no defense of the GOP since they are as equally disgusting and corrupt. But to blame them as being the problem and to pretend the Dems are not as equally disgusting and corrupt is to willfully ignore history and the facts, which is your wont.
#2 by cav on April 28, 2012 - 10:17 am
Good Morning. I did it. I confess. I scapegoated the pukes and gave a pass to the dims with my all powerful voodoo.
I’m just a zombie for obstructionism.
#3 by cav on April 28, 2012 - 3:12 pm
Obama joking about drone strikes is right up there with Bush looking under his desk for WMD’s after lying us into a war, in terms of callousness.
#4 by cav on April 28, 2012 - 3:13 pm
Obama joking about drone strikes is right up there with Bush looking under his desk for WMD’s after lying us into a war, in terms of callousness. And Obama’s reputedly a Democrat.
#5 by knight4444 on April 28, 2012 - 3:29 pm
And many people foolishly get upset with me when I say both parties are literally playing us for idiots! I voted for Obama actually believing there would be change! bullshit! YES there are some charges but not the charges I fantasized about. Can we agree that this so called democracy is dying? Corperations, the Koch brothers HELL foreign countries damn near run the entire country! Gentlemen these are very ugly times we live in
#6 by brewski on April 28, 2012 - 3:45 pm
You believed this even after Obama’s first decision was to appoint the most evil man in history?
#7 by knight4444 on April 28, 2012 - 3:54 pm
I’m sorry who was that? Eric holder?? who? brewski don’t tell me you voted for mccain/palin???? OMG
#8 by brewski on April 28, 2012 - 4:29 pm
James Johnson
You voted for Obama/Biden????? OMG
#9 by Cliff Lyon on April 30, 2012 - 9:40 am
Brew, I disagree with your premise:
I believe the authors addressed this period up front.
#10 by knight4444 on April 30, 2012 - 10:05 am
brewski, you said Obama first appointee was the most evil man ever!! I said who? Eric holder? you said WHO IS Eric holder? Eric holder, is attorney general I thought he was Obama’s first appointee
#11 by brewski on April 30, 2012 - 10:28 am
I never said “who is Eric Holder”. You said “who Eric Holder? who?” and I just copied your whole question and answered your question. My answer is that Obama’s first decision was to appoint James Johnson [the most evil man in the world], to head his VP search team. It was extremely revealing that Obama would pick the most evil man in the world and try to run on this hopey changey thing at the same time. It seems that most people weren’t paying attention.
#12 by knight4444 on April 30, 2012 - 11:29 am
Sorry about that, my fault. James Johnson huh? former ceo of fannie mae fame, I got your point. but your simply proving my original point brewski The whole political system is corrupt! both sides are dirty, everytime I post the TRUTH my response back is always the same COMPLETE SILENCE routine, then you guys start hacking each other up on other gripes! I’m looking for honest clear points not mindless bitching 24/7 don’t get me wrong venting from time to time is great but when thats the entire conversation isn’t that kinda silly? Yes I know, this post will probably be ignored to……
#13 by brewski on April 30, 2012 - 11:33 am
I don’t know what silence you are talking about. I agree with you on this. But it is the Glenden’s of the world who make the asinine posts how it is only the GOP who are the problem. That was his point, not mine.
#14 by knight4444 on April 30, 2012 - 11:48 am
brewski come on man, I’ve agreed with you plenty of times even when I’ve disagreed with you I really respect you. Hey guy you’ve been very adult with me and thank you. As for Glenden I haven’t heard too much from him other than the original topic he started,. Now if Glenden starts trying to make the democrats look blameless then I’ll call him out, believe me. Brewski in my limited opinion about you is that your much smarter than to simply countering dems bias with equal biases of your own. Go beyond that tit for tat chatter it doesn’t solve anything. Just realize both parties haveplayed us for FOOLS, now what can WE do to solve it??
#15 by brewski on April 30, 2012 - 11:51 am
I believe I said:
#16 by cav on April 30, 2012 - 11:01 pm
The Unreported Story of How They Fixed the 2000 Vote in Florida
http://seniorsforademocraticsociety.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/greg-palast-on-the-stolen-presidency-part-i/
#17 by cav on April 30, 2012 - 11:34 pm
And then Reagan working with the Iranians to keep the hostage situation going so as to insure that Carter would not win re-election. Reagan and Bush should have been tried for treason based on Iran-Contra.
I think Republicans, at least in so far as they allow themselves to be represented by such traitorous swine, are in fact a problem.
#18 by knight4444 on May 1, 2012 - 7:25 am
Hey the Iran hostage/regan deal is exactly why America is Hated by most of the free world!! regan was a TREASONIST DOG!! but in all honesty if a democrat would have been the next president regan would have gotten an AUTOMATIC PARDON ANYWAY!! democrats always cover for republicans!! DEMOCRATS always bring a knife to a gun fight!!!! thats one of the many reasons I don’t FULLY support them
#19 by cav on May 1, 2012 - 8:09 am
Well, you’ve got a real point there.
#20 by knight4444 on May 1, 2012 - 10:08 am
Believe me I’d love to see two parties working together but also keeping the other accountable. But in this country we have democrats putting up little or no resistance at all to republicans. Republicans take what they want democrats roll over like shameless mutts! Republicans don’t give a DAMN who or what group they offend!! Democrats are always on the defensive and look completely weak and feeble!! Both parties are controlled by multibillion dollar business and the republicans simply kick the crap out of democrats regularly! IT”S ALL SCRIPTED!! come on does anyone in their right minds believes that democrats could be this weak for decades!!!???? IT”S ALL SCRIPTED! name ONE strong, fire and brimstone, FIGHTER that fought for libera ideas!!!!!!!!!??? I’LL TELL YOU!!! Franklin Delenore Roosevelt!!!!!!!! COME ON!! he was the last one THATS PATHETIC!!
#21 by brewski on May 1, 2012 - 2:58 pm
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
#22 by cav on May 1, 2012 - 8:20 pm
A $20 bullet ended the hunt for osama. the cartridge it came from cost ~$4 fucking trillion but then again who’s counting?
#23 by brewski on May 3, 2012 - 8:40 pm
The nail on the Pelosi coffin being shut”
Washington Post
#24 by Richard Warnick on May 4, 2012 - 9:16 am
brewski–
Even if you think Rodriguez is a credible source (I do not – because he ought to be behind bars), his version is that Nancy Pelosi was told about torture after the fact. So there is no culpability on her part.
You have yet to explain how this allegation ties in with her decision not to impeach Bush and Cheney. Remember, torture was only one high crime. They also violated the U.N. Charter.
#25 by brewski on May 4, 2012 - 10:19 am
It’s called blowback. If she were to move to impeach Bush and Cheney then there would be lots more questions about what she knew and when, as well as charges made against Obama. You know, that whole invading sovereign countries and assassinating individuals who have not been convicted of anything thing. It’s like Senate rules. The Dems know that they don’t want to change them since they have used them in the past to their advantage and plan to do so in the future.
#26 by Richard Warnick on May 4, 2012 - 10:38 am
brewski–
Fear of Faux News Channel and the right-wing noise machine in general has been known to paralyze some Washington Dems, so I can see that affecting a decision not to impeach despite overwhelming evidence and confessions of wrongdoing.
It’s too bad, because the few polls ever taken indicated strong public support in favor of impeachment of Bush and Cheney for lying about Iraq and warrantless surveillance. Another example of Washington politicians studiously ignoring the will of the people.
OTOH in 2006 was there reason to believe the next President would inevitably violate the Constitution and commit war crimes? Maybe, but I’d want to know the facts.
On your last point, the Dems have never taken abuse of the filibuster to the max the way Republicans have. If I were Harry Reid, I would have called a vote and changed the rules to at least restrict the filibuster if not abolish it. He could have done it with a simple majority, but he wimped out.
All this interesting discussion aside, I think I made my point that Nancy Pelosi is by no means a leftist, let alone a leader of the political left.
#27 by cav on May 4, 2012 - 12:31 pm
I see Clinton’s exhausting and ridiculous impeachment circus as an inoculant. And since it was so fresh in the national consciousness; and since we can only do this sort of thing very rarely (or it might suggest our system of choosing the one true, great leader is somehow flawed – perish the thought), it was deemed by the Dems, and assented to by the Repugs that; even though there be torture; even though there be uncalled for war and lying and untold other crimes, looking back in that way would not be good for the blood pulsing through the body politic (their own necks). Pelosi was rather toolish in that decision, but if left to the courts or the pols themselves, it would clearly have thrown the illuminating spotlight on the mean, ornery, even murderous syndicate that purports to be our government.
#28 by brewski on May 4, 2012 - 12:40 pm
The day the senate died was October 23, 1987.
You might want to tell all the union thugs/organized crime mobsters that Pelosi isn’t a leftist. You could also tell all of her San Francisco constituents, gay activists and everyone else who gives money to her. Glenden tells us how much he admires her.
Harry Reid doesn’t want to pass the bills he says he wants to pass. The filibuster is a tool he uses to pretend he wants to do something but can’t. It allows him to do nothing, blame the GOP, and go to his next fundraiser.
#29 by cav on May 4, 2012 - 12:47 pm
Grant County Oregon Daylight Fireball of October 23, 1987 ?
#30 by Richard Warnick on May 4, 2012 - 1:12 pm
Where can I find these purported “union thugs/organized crime mobsters”?
I have to agree with you about Harry Reid. He’s doing kabuki theater, and phoning it in at that.
#31 by cav on May 4, 2012 - 1:20 pm
“Beastie Boys” rapper Adam Yauch (a.k.a. MCA) has died at the age of 47.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qORYO0atB6g
Cancer sucks.
#32 by brewski on May 4, 2012 - 1:34 pm
You can find them at the union hall.
http://lmliberty.us/2011/09/23/afl-cio-defends-union-violence-as-a-legitimate-union-activity/
http://www.nrtw.org/files/nrtw/ibdnilrr_union_violence_graph.png.cms_.png
#33 by cav on May 4, 2012 - 1:38 pm
beasties http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naf5uJYGoiU&feature=share
#34 by Richard Warnick on May 4, 2012 - 1:49 pm
I really doubt if anyone representing a union is engaged in criminal activity and getting away with it. That privilege is reserved for top government officials, and former officials such as Jose “Hard Measures” Rodriguez.
#35 by brewski on May 4, 2012 - 2:40 pm
A union is, by definition , a cartel. And is also a monopoly. Their whole point is to be the sole seller of a good, labor, to any one particular buyer, an employer. Cartels and monopolies are precarious things since they need to be enforced. The worst thing any monopoly wants is competition or other sellers entering the market. That is why OPEC has an output quota system and enforcement system. That is also why OPEC hates non-OPEC countries since those other countries don’t play by the output quota game that OPEC plays. It is great if you are a monopoly and you can get the government on your side. Then the government will do your enforcing for you. That has been true with airlines, interstate trucking, telephone companies, etc. That is also why the prices for all these things have come way down since those government enforced cartels were eased. The same is true for unions. They get the government to make it illegal for an employer to shop around for other willing employees willing to work for different wages and work rules. Those other willing people are always a constant threat to the existence of unions. So unions have a huge incentive to scare the crap out of anyone who thinks about undermining the union’s monopoly power. If it takes a few broken heads, so be it.
#36 by Richard Warnick on May 4, 2012 - 2:50 pm
Unions have practically vanished, and the middle class is going away with them. Without unions, we would not have the 40-hour work week, sick leave, unemployment compensation, or a lot of other employment conditions we take for granted.
#37 by brewski on May 4, 2012 - 3:42 pm
40 hour work week is law, I’ve always had sick leave and I’ve never been in a union, unemployment compensation is law, so everything you listed means unions have no purpose anymore. Yes, unions still are strong, just in the public employee arena which is why states like Calif, Illinois, Michigan, etc are all in such a mess. I can tell you specifically that the unions in Calif are the ones who will not agree to ban the practice of pay “spiking” so that many people retire with pensions much higher than their salary was when they worked.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-county-pensions-20120303,0,6677861.story
#38 by knight4444 on May 4, 2012 - 3:56 pm
You guys are amazing!! your endless point counter point is mind numbing and juvenile, I totally get why you gentlemen basically ignore my post because I’m telling the truth! But you guys get an adrenaline rush debating who’s party is clean and patriotic! LOL I’ve said over and over again BOTH parties are traders to this country! But you clowns are debating what fight uniform bushs sorry ass was wearing!! or if Polosi knew about TORTURE!!!!!!! enhanced methods my ass! TORTURE!!!!!! hell yes Polosi knew!! they’re all guilty!! You guys are embarrassing!! And what’s really funny is this little knitting circle you guys have is worthless! you aren’t changing ANYBODIES minds at all! Well theres a bible passage that says DON’T CAST PEARLS BEFORE SWINE I’ve given you gentlemen enough pearls for a lifetime. Enjoy your games of defending filth I tried reason and was rejected. Like Mr. T said I PITTY THE FOOL!! LOL PEACE
#39 by brewski on May 4, 2012 - 5:06 pm
Knight, you are completely wrong. I make factual statements, Richard makes statements requiring hallucinations and mind numbing drugs to believe.
#40 by knight4444 on May 4, 2012 - 5:50 pm
lol ok brewski, have fun lol
#41 by brewski on May 4, 2012 - 5:59 pm
Seriously, Richard went off on this whole thing about Bush in a military uniform which was untrue. I don’t make verifiably untrue statements.
#42 by cav on May 4, 2012 - 6:28 pm
knight.004 and your truth comes bundled with entirely too much verbiage. Drop in any time. and thanks.
#43 by Richard Warnick on May 6, 2012 - 12:23 pm
“BOTH parties are traders to this country.” Well, that explains the trade deficit.
I mentioned in passing that President Bush donned a military uniform before his “Mission Accomplished” speech, and brewksi tried to deny (1) the name of the speech and (2) what Bush wore. But these are facts recorded in history now.
#44 by cav on May 6, 2012 - 6:13 pm
‘Codpiece of the star-struck’! Come and gone.
Now let’s see what those waiting in the wings are packing. Either way, if the media has anything to do with it – and they do – I know we’ll all be impressed – rest assured.
#45 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 7:07 am
Well cav I’m very distressed that you think my post have more VERBISH than you care for, the bottom line is I’m shedding light on ignorance. I’m sorry that I don’t come up with the earth shaking highly intelligent rants like your latest post of A BEASTIE BOY DYING!!
#46 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 8:38 am
Don’t take it too hard. Actually, your comments remind me of a commenter at another site which I like very much. And there is that truth you present. I cannot fault that.
#47 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 9:13 am
My political views all somewhat based on Thom Hartmann, Rachael Maddow with a touch of the late great George Carlin. Like I’ve said before, arguing for either party is a complete waste of time but it’s YOUR time to waste. I’m a man that seeks answers to solutions, not constantly trying to be an UNPAID spokesman for either political party that couldn’t care less for the common man. TAKE THE BLUE PILL!
#48 by Richard Warnick on May 7, 2012 - 9:18 am
If you go over my old posts you might see that I’m far less loyal to the Dems than Rachel Maddow is. If there were a Progressive Party I might join that.
#49 by Cliff Lyon on May 7, 2012 - 10:05 am
Knight,
I agree with your observation that democrats keep getting rolled. But that implies you support their intentions.
So rather that simply dismiss both parties, why not fight for democrats? Governance in this democracy requires a mandate from the people.
A popular mandate today in this country is impossible in the face of corporate influence and low voter turnout and even lower voter education.
Thats why I am fighting with Move to Amend.
#50 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 10:49 am
Gentlemen I generally vote democrat only because republicans ideas are so pro wealthy and blatantly insane! it’s sad when most americans that ACTUALLY give a damn and vote don’t really vote for someone they respect! We typically vote for the lesser of two evils!! The dems and republicans can agree whole heartily on ONE point KEEP THE THIRD parties moot!! I call radio shows talk to people in the streets. But both sides are so deeply in the pockets of BIG business I see very little hope in either party and voting for Nader? will that ever work? Listen the GOP is dying I’m waiting to see if the dems blow those bastards away or stick their foot in their mouths and give them life!!
#51 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 10:52 am
More VERBISH, less horn-tooting!
Re: the Beasties, Music can be a very big and motivating part of the change process. (see: How the torture soundscape is put into play). And of course: Fortunate Son by Creedence Clearwater Revival, Peacetrain by Cat Stevens, and on and on. The Beasty Boys played their part and now they are short a key member. Just sayin’.
#52 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 10:57 am
cav do us both a favor ok! don’t tell me how to voice MY opinion if MY opinions are too much VERBISH for YOU then STOP READING THEM, pretty simple right?
#53 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 11:08 am
I personally wouldn’t put the BEASTIE BOYS in the same category with those other adult groups, cav you desperately need the BLUE PILL and get some fiber in your diet, your getting cracky in your old age
#54 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 11:37 am
: No offense. I just love the cracky verbish. That is all. Polish that and you’ll have an undying follower. That I promise hue.
#55 by Richard Warnick on May 7, 2012 - 11:50 am
Knight, you’re welcome to contribute whatever verbish you have in stock. However, point of information: I believe you have confused the red and blue pills. It’s the red pill that puts you into the real world.
#56 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 11:53 am
cav you obviously can’t control yourself I see, your apparently a person that simply likes to argue, argue about anything!! LOL oh my fault I meant ”cranky” old man when you actually have something intelligent to say share it with us ok AND GET OFF MY LAWN!!! LOL
#57 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 12:12 pm
Richard your absolutely correct it’s the RED PILL for enlightenment I stand corrected thank you. cav now go get the RED PILL lol
#58 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 12:43 pm
My pill-poppin’ days are very far in the past – I’m stuck now in the ‘real’ world and there ain’t no drug gonna change that.
#59 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 1:46 pm
The reference to the BLUE and RED PILL is from the Matrix I wasn’t talking about your former drug taking days cav. Anyway I want someone to give their opinion on why michele bachmann is on every damn political show on earth??? is it because she’s so obnoxious and pathetic people just view her as low level entertainment?
#60 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 2:27 pm
Whatevah11And I’m the guy that like to argue.
As for why Mickey Bachmann is worth watching, besides the fantasy of her in a camo thong, is that – as hard as it may be to believe – there are a number of our fellow and femine citizenry who actually resonate with her. They’d like to see Gas back at $1.50 a gallon, sheep lying down with lions and the like.
And now she’s clamoring onto the roof of Mitts wagon along with the other dogs.
#61 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 2:30 pm
Oh, and of course, there’s the media. they’re invested in such ‘sparkle’.
#62 by Richard Warnick on May 7, 2012 - 2:57 pm
Rep. Bachmann is out there as part of the GOP pushback after being hammered with the Dems’ unimaginative but accurate “war on women” tag.
But as long as they keep pushing to de-fund Planned Parenthood and make birth control illegal they will keep losing votes.
#63 by knight4444 on May 7, 2012 - 4:43 pm
Thank you for your opinions guys but you know me, I’m going to say you to give your honest opinion on the intelligence of the average american voter? When you have the republicans scraping the bottom of the sewer with this line up of palin, bachmann rick perry, john boehner, john mccain, rick santorum, newt gringrich ECT ECT ECT whats wrong with us??
#64 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 6:44 pm
If He Were President, the Far Right Would Lead Romney Around by a Ring in His Nose
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/if-he-were-president-the_b_1492517.html
#65 by cav on May 7, 2012 - 7:33 pm
Great Venn diagram: http://www.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/santa.gif
#66 by cav on May 8, 2012 - 7:45 pm
Michele Bachmann claims Swiss citizenship
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76072.html
#67 by cav on May 8, 2012 - 7:49 pm
I sincerely doubt the willing idiots of the GOP base have any thought at all to what comes after they finish destroying the government’s capacity to function. I suppose they all mostly expect a libertarian Galtian paradise to arise. I suppose I could hope to live long enough to see the looks on their faces when the Overlords they thought would save them give them a solid kick over the edge.
#68 by brewski on May 8, 2012 - 11:08 pm
“after they finish destroying the government’s capacity to function.”
The government has a capacity to function? You mean like these government functionaries?
#69 by cav on May 8, 2012 - 11:35 pm
Honorary comish for a day! Siesta time in accounting…snap too!
#70 by knight4444 on May 9, 2012 - 5:06 am
I was watching Frontline last night it was about Rupert murdoch and his phoney news organization Newscorp, WOW this guy is worse than I previously thought! The corruption the blackmailing is Hoover like!! But will these facts about this con man finally convince your typical fux viewers their watching trash!
#71 by cav on May 9, 2012 - 8:33 am
Rupert Murdoch and possibly all of the right wing involved in propagandizing, see the stupidity out there – the viewers of FOX News – who they think will believe anything, no matter how nasty or silly, that the media they tell them about the Democrats. I think ‘trash’ is putting it kindly,
#72 by cav on May 9, 2012 - 8:38 am
Correction / edit:
…no matter how nasty or silly, they tell them about the Democrats.
I apologize for the mistakes.
#73 by Richard Warnick on May 9, 2012 - 3:23 pm
Admiral General Aladeen endorses Willard:
#74 by knight4444 on May 9, 2012 - 5:40 pm
Murdoch was actually bribing UK police officers and went on to hire a few on his payroll, Rupert also hired private detectives to shadow current members of parliament and blackmail anyone that spoke against him!! Murdoch actually had the chief of police lying for him while newscorp hacked text messaging services!!! The fool hacked Prince Williams texts . I pray to GOD the democrats crack down on Murdoch I’ll hold my breath on democrats being on the offensive this time!!
#75 by knight4444 on May 9, 2012 - 5:45 pm
If the dems has a media giant like fox or radio stations like clear channel republicans would unite and rip that thing to pieces!! republicans OWN the airwave they have 600 plus radio stations to 100 progressive ones, and don’t travel to the south!! it’s even worse!!
#76 by brewski on May 9, 2012 - 6:30 pm
“If the dems has a media giant like fox or radio stations like clear channel”
They do, they are called ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, SF Comical, etc etc etc
#77 by cav on May 9, 2012 - 7:18 pm
I might accept MSNBC in the evenings, and parts of the two left-coast papers, but all the rest are not a whole lot better than Faux Noise. The etc, etc, etc, I’m presuming are imaginary.
#78 by brewski on May 9, 2012 - 10:21 pm
Cav, there are degrees of leftism. But when did the last time any one of the outlets endorse a Republican for any office? I used to work for the LA Times and I can tell you the answer to that is 1956.
When was the last time CBS ever gave any Republican a fawning interview like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiM3yzjSDks
So sure, some are more left than others. But they ALL give deference to Dems.
#79 by cav on May 9, 2012 - 10:40 pm
Sunday morning Bobblespeak and propaganda spews.
I get much more out of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report.
I did see a bumper sticker today: Watching television has ruined my life!
#80 by brewski on May 9, 2012 - 10:56 pm
Easy way to fix that.
#81 by knight4444 on May 10, 2012 - 5:33 am
brewski NBC CBS CNN ABC, progressive?? See foolish comments like that really hurt your credibility!! I strongly suggest YOU google or yahoo search “progressive” and educate yourself. MSNBC is the closest one ”democrat” friendly outlet you named, democrat and progressive are usually to slightly different terms
#82 by brewski on May 10, 2012 - 8:32 am
I didn’t call them progressive. So you are arguing against something I didn’t say. Your lack of reading is hurting your credibility.
#83 by cav on May 10, 2012 - 9:08 am
…made up his mind without any real thought, the information was stove piped, and all the presidents people approached the debate within the country like a prosecuting attorney. Evidence that made their case was exaggerated and emphasized; the evidence that disproved their case was buried and discredited.
All with the willing compliance of the most watched media.
#84 by cav on May 10, 2012 - 9:17 am
Of course what we really needed to know was whether the missing white woman was about to hold a bake sale in support of the school closure.
The war in Iraq was, as we all know now, a forgone conclusion. Sadly, with a lot of Democrat support (or dupedness anyway). It was, after all ‘Pearl Harbor 2.0′.
#85 by brewski on May 10, 2012 - 10:50 am
The Left is trying to ban bake sales:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/05/07/Massachusetts-to-ban-school-bake-sales/UPI-85121336433591/?spt=hs&or=tn
#86 by knight4444 on May 10, 2012 - 5:37 pm
Anyway brewski lets be frank, your constantly haphazard attempt to defend conservatism is laughable. Bottomline any honest, intelligent person knows conservative media dominates in this country. I was in the Philippines for over a month and I couldn’t get MSNBC or anything democrat, progressive! it was fux news lock stock and barrel
#87 by brewski on May 10, 2012 - 8:41 pm
“any honest, intelligent person knows conservative media dominates in this country”
Ha! Now that IS laughable.
#88 by knight4444 on May 11, 2012 - 3:08 am
Unreal LOL go to most businesses that has a television for the public I’d say 90% of the time it’s glued to fux network, I’ve NEVER seen MSNBC on anywhere but my living room. Now brewski maybe if you ever left your sofa you’d comprehend what I’m saying.
#89 by knight4444 on May 11, 2012 - 3:22 am
Anybody that travels driving across country trying to listen to talk radio knows that finding ANYTHING with a democrat theme is almost impossible. I live in Michigan and limbaugh and buddies are on 24/7 but progressive/democrat shows no such luck. MSNBC even has ”morning Joe”! fux network doesn’t have ONE democrat hosting a show!! Hell fux doesn’t even have Allen colms silly as* anymore, That’s FAIR AND BALANCED FOR YA
#90 by cav on May 11, 2012 - 7:18 am
When I drive cross country, as I do about four times a year, I listen to books on CD – Kurt Vonnegut, Steven Colbert, Karl Marx, ..you know the breed.
No Rush, no William Krystol. I have my morals to think about.
#91 by brewski on May 11, 2012 - 8:29 am
Knight, your narrative makes sense as long as you are willing to ignore ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NTY, WaPo, LAT, SFC and every other metropolitan newspaper and tv news in the country outside of the WSJ and Fox. As for why businesses have their tv’s on to Fox is because it has 3X the ratings as MSNBC. Under your logic ESPN should broadcast cricket and not football.
#92 by cav on May 11, 2012 - 9:47 am
“…Fox is because it has 3X the ratings…”
Chicken >?< Egg
#93 by knight4444 on May 14, 2012 - 8:41 am
Once again our resident republican apologist is in la la land, most big business owners probably lean republican thats why they put that fux bullsh*t on the public television at their comanies, I guarantee intelligent customers don’t want to watch fux while trying to do business. Only a moron would equate viewer ratings as an argument for anything of substance!! I’m sure jerry springer has huge ratings too
#94 by brewski on May 14, 2012 - 9:18 am
I didn’t make any argument at all about viewer ratings and substance. You must be thinking of someone else. Please work on your reading comprehension.