Perhaps the largest convention of climate science deniers in history — otherwise known as the 2012 Republican National Convention — starts Monday in Tampa, Florida. Unfortunately for the GOP, they are in the bull’s-eye of the latest track for tropical storm Isaac.
Looks like Isaac is going to reach hurricane force, as it gains strength from the 85-degree water in the Gulf of Mexico. In addition to storm-amplifying effects of global warming, the Tampa area is vulnerable to sea level rise, brutal heat waves, ever-worsening deluges and urban flooding.
“Monday are Tuesday [at the RNC] are definitely in jeopardy,” said meteorologist Bill Karins on MSNBC Thursday. “I don’t see any way possible that Tampa’s going to be completely missed at this point.”
#1 by cav on August 23, 2012 - 10:33 am
I’ve been thinking that all of this rocketry – which, of course you don’t have to be a scientist of – has propelled both the Earth AND the Moon into slightly altered orbits, and while still man-caused, may be an unspoken, unobserved, partial cause of this pending catastrophe. I mean, both the Earth and Moon are just bobbing round in the ether, subject to the Newton’s laws of motion.
Now, that the republican convention (and all those un-enlightened souls) may be devastated by the wrath of God’s own climatic machinations, however back-handed, would have to be viewed as proper punishment and only right.
The rest of us will get ours in due time.
#2 by brewski on August 23, 2012 - 11:45 am
How do you explain all of those massive killer hurricanes before global warming?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1841442,00.html
#3 by Richard Warnick on August 23, 2012 - 12:23 pm
brewski–
It’s OK to acknowledge reality, even if many right-wing partisans refuse to. I assume you are not receiving any money from the fossil fuels industry, so why not accept scientific conclusions? Tampa is one of the cities most vulnerable to climate change.
Is Global Warming Worsening Hurricanes?
Hurricane Trends & Damage Costs (PDF)
Atlantic Hurricane Trends Linked to Climate Change (PDF)
#4 by brewski on August 23, 2012 - 1:21 pm
Thank you for not answering my question.
#5 by Richard Warnick on August 23, 2012 - 2:17 pm
No one has said there were no hurricanes before global warming. Warmer oceans mean stronger hurricanes, that’s the point.
#6 by brewski on August 23, 2012 - 3:29 pm
Tell that to Galveston.
#7 by Richard Warnick on August 23, 2012 - 3:53 pm
Did you ever take a science course?
#8 by brewski on August 23, 2012 - 4:47 pm
Plenty.
Did you ever take a history course?
#9 by Shane on August 23, 2012 - 6:27 pm
Proof brewski, you lack it. The overwhelming majority of climate science and scientists are one side, and a nameless coward who claims to have taken “plenty” of science classes but who lacks a basic understanding of science is one the other.
Hell basic reading seems to be a weak point. The claim is not that hurricanes didn’t exist before warming, only that warming makes them more common and stronger. Just once try to show at least a 2nd grade understanding of the local language! For someone who bitches about people speaking other languages around him, you sure have trouble following the language you claim to speak!
#10 by brewski on August 23, 2012 - 6:32 pm
See Warburton.
#11 by cav on August 23, 2012 - 6:40 pm
Any of you geniuses care to address my comment about Newtonian physics? (see #1)
I mentioned nothing of our immanent demise, so don’t let that scare you.
TIA
#12 by Shane on August 23, 2012 - 7:33 pm
Loved Warburton’s voice work in the emporer’s new groove…
Cav, the problem with the rocketry as adjusting Earth trajectory is that you need a sifficient combination of mass and energy, force, to do the job. Yes, a rocket would change the earths trajectory, the same way a gnat leaving an aircraft carrier would change the ships coarse. There just isn’t enough force. The speed, while enough to reach orbit, is far too low for the mass of the rocket. Look at it another way, find the earths mass, find a Saturn rockets mass. They are many orders of magnitude different. The rocket would need to lift of at many times the speed of light to make a significant difference.
There are plans to tow earth collision asteroids out of impact trajectory with rockets though. The asteroid would have to rather small, and the rocket would still need weeks or more of constant firing to more the object a few meters, and the trajectory would thus have to be altered very early, but it has been considered. The basic idea is sound.
#13 by cav on August 23, 2012 - 7:39 pm
Thanks Shane. I like the gnat / aircraft carrier analogy. : )
#14 by Larry Bergan on August 24, 2012 - 3:28 pm
The swiftboaters best come in by truck this time.