At the American Prospect:
The Affordable Care Act did in fact reduce spending on Medicare. It did so through a variety of means both large and small, but the two biggest savings came through an end to the overpayments taxpayers were giving to private insurance companies through Medicare Advantage, and reduced payments to hospitals. The hospitals agreed to those reductions in large part because the fact that the ACA insures so many more people means that they’ll make up the income elsewhere, by not having to treat so many uninsured patients who can’t pay. Those two items make up about two-thirds of the Medicare savings in the ACA; the rest comes from a measures like reduced payments to some other providers and a crackdown on Medicare fraud. But none of the savings involve taking anything away from beneficiaries.
Not only that, the opposite is true. Romney is partly right that the money from these savings is going to people other than seniors, since some of it does go toward expanding coverage for people who aren’t on Medicare. But some of those savings also goes to pay for increased benefits for Medicare beneficiaries. The ACA provides preventive care for seniors with no cost-sharing (i.e., no co-pays or deductibles), which the government says 16 million seniors took advantage of in the first half of this year. It also closed the prescription drug “doughnut hole,” saving many beneficiaries hundreds of dollars in drug costs. What that means is that under the “cuts” to Medicare from the ACA, seniors now have more benefits than they did before. The savings have also extended the life of the Medicare trust fund.
So while the ACA did cut Medicare, it did so in ways that didn’t reduce benefits for seniors, and increased those benefits in other ways. Romney is now saying he’ll “restore” the money to Medicare by repealing the entire Affordable Care Act, which actually means imposing more costs on seniors (re-opening the doughnut hole, bringing back cost-sharing in preventive care).
And:
. . . if Mitt Romney were to succeed in repealing the ACA, Medicare’s cost problem would worsen considerably. His answer is that we can solve the problem by 1) waiting for the market to bring down costs, and 2) forcing seniors to pay more for whatever the market doesn’t take care of.
Finally:
That then leads to the most significant practical difference in the approaches taken by Obama and Romney. Through the Affordable Care Act, Obama uses a variety of means–dozens of them, actually–to attempt to bring down costs within the existing program. But he does it while retaining Medicare’s guarantee of coverage. Romney, on the other hand, explicitly refuses to entertain changes within Medicare itself. He doesn’t propose changing the way Medicare pays for care, or suggest any pilot programs or any incentives to lower costs. Instead, he hopes that that competition with private insurers is all that’s necessary to bring those costs down. If that doesn’t work, his plan will shift more and more of the expense onto the seniors themselves. One approach says we can shape this program to make it work as well as possible and use it to leverage the kind of changes we’d all like to see in the broader health care market. The other says if we just get government out of the way, the market will produce optimal results on its own. The Obama approach includes some uncertainty; improving on a large and complex government program isn’t easy, and it’s likely that some of the reforms in the ACA will work better than others. So it’s possible it won’t succeed. But if Romney was right, the private insurance market would already be outperforming Medicare. And we know that hasn’t happened.



#1 by Richard Warnick on August 16, 2012 - 12:32 pm
Romney’s false accusation that the ACA “steals” from Medicare is the same thing that Republicans were peddling in 2009. Remember the town hall meetings full of confused old folks screaming “keep government out of my Medicare”?
#2 by Richard Warnick on August 16, 2012 - 1:42 pm
Running Around The Numbers
The so-called “cuts” are in fact reductions in over-payments to medical providers.
#3 by Ronald D. Hunt on August 16, 2012 - 3:04 pm
And the savings are plowed back into medicare for the most part, closing the drug donut hole, reducing co-pays, providing free preventative and screening services, and increasing the solvency of the fund for 8 more years.
Those changes are a big part of Obamacare.
#4 by brewski on August 16, 2012 - 3:44 pm
Glenden,
Read this sentence three times and tell me what you think it means:
“and reduced payments to hospitals. The hospitals agreed to those reductions in large part because the fact that the ACA insures so many more people means that they’ll make up the income elsewhere, by not having to treat so many uninsured patients who can’t pay. ”
Reduced payments to hospitals (and doctors) means that all non Medicare patients will pay more to cover the losses on Medicare. Hospitals and doctors lose money on each Medicare and Medicaid patient they treat, so everyone else makes up for that. It also means that the government budgetary numbers for Medicare and Medicaid are fiction, since those patients are being subsidized for every visit by everyone else. That doesn’t show up in Medicare and Medicaid budgetary costs. So when you cut payments to hospitals and doctors, there is no savings. No money has been saved. The only thing that happens is that those costs get shifted more to other patients. So this article says that the hospitals “agreed” to lose more money on each Medicare patient since they should be able to overcharge everyone else. The ability to overcharge everyone else should not be viewed as some solution and should not be viewed as OK, particularly since it is without everyone else’s consent.
Yes, there will be more insured people. But there will still be 60,000,000 uninsured people and there will still be tens of millions on Medicare and Medicaid. All three of these groups are subsidized the overcharging you and me. There was no problem solved here and no money was saved.
Would you be OK with the state of Utah making an agreement from Rocky Mountain power to lower the price of electricity it sells to state government offices as long as Rocky Mountain Power can overcharge all residential customers? I don’t think you’d be OK with that. Particularly if they never asked you, but the two of them just did it.
#5 by Richard Warnick on August 17, 2012 - 8:59 am
brewski–
You make a very good argument for single-payer, Medicare For All.
#6 by brewski on August 17, 2012 - 9:21 am
I always have, although I wouldn’t have a fee for service model like Medicare which encourages waste and rewards low quality and punishes high quality providers. How about Mayo model for all instead?
#7 by Richard Warnick on August 17, 2012 - 9:31 am
I’m in favor of any program that brings U.S. health care costs into line. Right now, we pay double compared to citizens of other developed countries. And in those other countries, you don’t lose your health care coverage if you lose your job.
#8 by brewski on August 17, 2012 - 11:32 am
Obama promised that his bill would reduce premiums by $2500.
Where is it?
#9 by Richard Warnick on August 17, 2012 - 11:47 am
Source for Obama promise?
#10 by brewski on August 17, 2012 - 1:24 pm
“In speech after speech, Senator Barack Obama has vowed that he will lower the country’s health care costs enough to “bring down premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.”
- New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/us/23health.html?ex=1374552000&en=59763b2937c15bd3&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15E7goj7Fmo
http://www.youtube.com/results?hl=en&q=obama+lower+health+care+premiums+by+%242500&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=1401&bih=757&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w1
#11 by Richard Warnick on August 17, 2012 - 2:19 pm
Thanks for citing sources for once. Only goes to show that the last person anyone ought to believe is a candidate running for President from either major political party.
As it turned out, the ACA was more about preserving health care industry profits than lowering the cost to consumers. Health insurance premiums continue to skyrocket, and the number of uninsured continues to increase as employers drop insurance. In 2014, the individual mandate will really clobber those without insurance.
#12 by brewski on August 17, 2012 - 2:57 pm
Why do you think it all comes into effect after this election? If it went into effect in 2012 Obama would have been impeached by now. People who defend ACA don’t know the bill and they don’t know what they don’t know. But it is easy just to call everyone else racists.