Remember in 2000 when hundreds of illegal immigrants voted for Al Gore and he won the presidency by stealing the election? If you don’t, that may be because what actually happened was that thousands of votes by Jewish voters where cast on the infamous butterfly ballots and got counted for some Christian fundie named Pat rather than Gore. Fortunately we learned from that, and stopped using oddly formatted ballots. Except for the ones they used in the same county in 2004.
There are better methods.
Remember when thousands of DNC operatives registered voters across the country and then threw away the forms if they where marked “republican”? If not, that could be because it was actually an RNC hired firm that threw away registration forms, and yet keeps getting hired, and payed, to do the same thing again, year after year. Accuse ACORN of voter fraud because they found someone committing fraud and fired and reported them? Check! Knowingly and systematically hire your own operatives to commit the same fraud on a massive scale, change the company name when caught, wash, rinse, repeat? Check!
Remember when Ohio went for the dem candidate despite polling that suggested otherwise and everyone pointed to things like the e-voting machines being linked to democratic supporters and the suspicious actions of democratic officials who took vote counts home to tally them or the precincts that had more voters for the democrat than they had registered voters?
Oops, sorry. Just run a “find and replace” in that paragraph and swap republican in for democrat. My bad.
After more than a decade of this sort of behavior, and things getting so bad that the UN has sent election monitors in to some areas, as if we are a despotic ruled regime taking our first tentative attempt at democracy, surely we the people have looked around and noticed this shit. Surely by now we have taken steps to stop this sort of blatant attempt at election theft. Surely, the people themselves have risen up in protest!
Pollsters and pundits have trained their eyes on Ohio, where President Obama maintains a narrow lead over Mitt Romney just days before the election. According to exit polls, Obama’s lead is even stronger among early voters. But several recent developments threaten to disenfranchise many of these voters and plunge Ohio into a bureaucratic nightmare on election night.
The Columbus Dispatch reported today that a data-sharing glitch and mistakes by election officials has caused thousands of absentee ballot requests to be rejected. While Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted maintains that this was a computer error, the Northeast Ohio Voter Advocates found an abnormally high rate of rejected absentee ballot requests in Cuyahoga County, a Democratic stronghold that includes Cleveland. The Cuyahoga Board of Elections determined that 865 ballot requests had been erroneously thrown out.
It is amazing how often reality has a liberal bias, but mistakes lean conservative…
If these voters try to cast their vote in person, they will likely be forced to use a provisional ballot, as the absentee ballot error has thrown their registration status into question. At least 4,500 registered voters across the state will be left waiting for their absentee ballots, while as many as 6,000 provisional ballots cast by registered voters could be tossed out. The provisional ballots that do not get thrown out won’t be counted until November 17, according to state law, further dragging out the confusion.
At least there is nothing riding on this vote count.
Still, benefit of the doubt and all. It isn’t like this has happened before. It is a new method of cheating mistake.
This absentee ballot fiasco is just the latest in Ohio’s dysfunctional election saga. On Wednesday, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals allowed Husted to discount ballots cast by people directed to the wrong polling station by a pollworker — one of the most common errors that led to thousands of votes getting thrown out in Ohio’s dysfunctional 2004 presidential election.
Well, it could be worse. He could be blatant about it.
Husted has become a national symbol of voter suppression after he banned early voting on nights and weekends, and attempted to defy a court order that restored early voting on the last three days before the election.
In his defense, Husted often touts his unprecedented initiative to mail absentee ballot requests to every registered voter in the state. But critics have pointed out that this measure is likely to add to the confusion that could delay the results of the election. Anyone who chooses to return the absentee ballot application but later decides to vote in person will be required to use a provisional ballot, as election officials need to verify that they did not also send in their absentee ballot. The absentee ballot initiative, then, could be a bureaucratic nightmare in disguise. With innumerable legitimate votes cast on provisional ballots, Ohio’s 2012 election could end up mirroring 2004, when the state discarded thousands of votes and tipped George W. Bush over the edge to victory by the narrowest margin.
Meanwhile, the GOP trained sheep complain about voter fraud by telling stories of people casting more than one vote or voting despite being ineligible. The number of cases of that style of voter fraud can literally be counted by my pre-k niece, and she won’t even have to use her other hand, but the republican style vote denial fraud has now reached the millions.
And we still haven’t done a damn thing about it.
There is some quote about who votes not counting, rather it is who counts the votes, but why bother? Nobody is listening anyway.



#1 by Richard Warnick on November 2, 2012 - 9:17 am
Voter suppression is real, and only Republicans do it intentionally — not because Dems are necessarily the good guys, but because of demographics. The answer is to not have a close election. In 2008, they did all the same stuff but it wasn’t enough to change the outcome.
However, the “butterfly ballot” in Palm Beach County, Florida, was designed by a Democrat. I’m guessing it wasn’t her intent to trick people into voting for Pat Buchanan.
#2 by Shane on November 2, 2012 - 9:45 am
If I recall the designer of the ballot in Florida was a regestered dem who changed parties the next year, which didn’t seem odd at all. And the real issue wasn’t the design (stupid) but the way the painfully obvious, that the votes where incorrect and should be recast, was ignored to let someone else win.
I really should have explained that. Good catch.
#3 by Richard Warnick on November 2, 2012 - 9:53 am
Theresa LePore has a Wikipedia page. I didn’t know they called her “Madame Butterfly.” Her mistake helped George W. Bush become President despite losing the 2000 election.
What’s up with this?
Conservative group faces backlash after sending out ‘voter audit’ mailers
#4 by cav on November 2, 2012 - 7:39 pm
I’ll say this; if there’s even the smallest bone of indecision anywhere in your being, early voting will be found to produce stress reduction beyond ones wildest dreams. No more last minute psycho-fear mongering, because, the inability to retrieve your ballot is wisely irrevocable. I have never felt this way about the ‘final stretch’, because, for me, it’s a done deal.
Next election, I’m voting as early as possible, In fact I’m ready for 2016 and 2020 (if only as a declarative gesture of my will to continue living)!
#5 by Larry Bergan on November 2, 2012 - 9:33 pm
The “butterfly ballot” lady changed her party from Republican to Democrat not too long before she designed the butterfly punchcard. I hadn’t heard she changed back to Republican AFTER the fiasco. That is just plain strange.
#6 by Larry Bergan on November 2, 2012 - 10:15 pm
I voted on Wednesday and I, once again, requested a paper ballot. I guess I’m the only one who ever does that because it always takes the poll workers a while to figure it out. I was apologetic, and the poll workers were really, really nice about their inconvenience.
I told them the machines were owned by Canadians now and that I didn’t have anything against Canadians, but didn’t think it was right. Of course they had no idea that was the case because our media only covers car wreaks, rapes, fires – well you know.
It was a real nightmare getting my drivers license renewed last time. They made me take the test again, for the first time since I’ve been driving, and my license has a check mark for high blood pressure so, since I don’t have any health insurance, I had to pay a doctor $80 dollars to get a prescription. Had to go back to the DMV three times. I can’t begin to imagine how hard it would be for an immigrant who doesn’t speak the language very well to get through the mess that is the DMV. The lines are always ridiculous because it is seriously understaffed, but times are lean, I guess.
#7 by Richard Warnick on November 3, 2012 - 11:17 am
Theresa LePore has never been a registered Republican. This is why I posted a link to her Wikipedia article.
The reason for the “butterfly ballot” was to make the font size larger for elderly voters. The confusion that resulted was an unintended consequence of good intentions. Throughout history, if you study history, you discover that sometimes accidents happen. It’s not all a big conspiracy.
#8 by Larry Bergan on November 3, 2012 - 12:27 pm
Richard:
I can’t figure out why it’s impossible for you to wrap your head around election fraud. I’m not an expert on Theresa LePore and I’m not so sure Wikipedia is either.
What about all the other thousands of reasons to not trust our elections using machines, which includes the possibility that many New Yorkers may not be able to vote due to hurricane Sandy?
#9 by Richard Warnick on November 3, 2012 - 4:14 pm
You stated Theresa LePore was a Republican. There is no evidence for that. Also, no evidence her mistake was part of any conspiracy.
#10 by Larry Bergan on November 3, 2012 - 4:37 pm
Richard, (my middle name):
I have no way of knowing, directly, whether LePore is a fraud or not, but your support of unverifiable voting is puzzling.
#11 by Richard Warnick on November 3, 2012 - 5:16 pm
In the absence of evidence, why make accusations? Speaking of which, I have never supported unverifiable voting. Where do you get that?
#12 by Larry Bergan on November 3, 2012 - 5:27 pm
Richard:
The day you reject voting on machines with unverifiable results will be the day I will hug you.
If you don’t want to be hugged, I will understand.
I expect you to get real. Computers are amazing but they aren’t magic.
#13 by cav on November 3, 2012 - 7:26 pm
I commend your rationality Richard.
#14 by Larry Bergan on November 3, 2012 - 7:44 pm
I guess I’m missing something.
It wouldn’t be the first time.
If ignoring the threat of the machines is the way to go…
#15 by Larry Bergan on November 3, 2012 - 7:49 pm
But I’m hoping for some further discussion; I guess?
#16 by Richard Warnick on November 3, 2012 - 7:55 pm
Larry–
I took some time to cook and eat dinner.
Didn’t I previously refer you to my posts from 2008?
Were the Polls Wrong in NH? Or Did Obama Get Diebolded?
NH Primary Recount Starts Tomorrow
In 2008 the NH Primary used voter-verified paper ballots, yet I was still skeptical of the results that were counted electronically. The recount failed to settle the issue, too.
#17 by Larry Bergan on November 3, 2012 - 8:31 pm
Well OK Richard.
You posted one post about the dangers of the voting machines on a blog that nobody reads.
Good for you.
#18 by cav on November 3, 2012 - 10:01 pm
Not nobody.
The issues were two as I read them. One: Was the woman who designed the butterfly ballot something of a blunderer when it came to ballot design as opposed to just another conspirator. And two: Are voting machines what they’re advertised to be.
And three: Perhaps we’re all just a little bit sick of election season? I know I am.
#19 by Larry Bergan on November 3, 2012 - 10:08 pm
“election” season?
Who knew.
#20 by Richard Warnick on November 4, 2012 - 10:47 am
Larry–
I realize that e-voting could make a difference when and where the elections aren’t as lopsided as they usually are in Utah. The answer, as I always say, is don’t have a close election.
In a nation made up of the 99 Percent and the 1 Percent, an evenly-divided two-party election doesn’t reflect the will of the people.
#21 by Larry Bergan on November 4, 2012 - 12:58 pm
This is scaring me. Daily KOS doesn’t usually touch the voting machine issue.
#22 by Richard Warnick on November 5, 2012 - 9:06 am
I think I read this same piece from Campbell and James a couple of weeks ago, before it got re-posted on DKos.
We shall see tomorrow whether their prediction is correct. They say that Romney will win every state where the margin of victory is less than 10 percent. That means: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin ought to go for Romney. Nate Sliver forecasts Obama wins in CO, IA, NV, NH, OH, PA, VA, and WI.
#23 by Richard Warnick on November 5, 2012 - 10:28 am
Jonathan Chait offers another explanation for the Romney campaign’s seeming confidence, that has nothing to do with e-voting machines.
Romney Says He’s Winning — It’s a Bluff
Bear in mind that anonymous sources within the Romney campaign are already saying that Hurricane (or Superstorm, as it has now been dubbed) Sandy destroyed what little chance Romney had of winning. It’s a good spin for political pros, because they can say it wasn’t their fault.
Republicans Lay The Groundwork To Blame Hurricane Sandy If Romney Loses
#24 by Larry Bergan on November 5, 2012 - 5:42 pm
Jim Hightower has joined with the conspiracy theorist’s and gives a quick summary.
He didn’t mention the new “experimental” patches that have recently been loaded into Ohio’s voting machines.
If I’m wrong to be concerned, and Obama wins Ohio, I have the right to blame something also. If you’ve been checking BradBlog lately, there are a lot of investigations going on and that could scare people out of getting involved in fraud.
We’ll know tomorrow evening where this is going to go.
#25 by cav on November 6, 2012 - 6:47 am
I suppose in a world where ‘Up is Down’, irrationality might be rational – un-hinged radicalism > conservative.
I suppose.
#26 by Richard Warnick on January 28, 2013 - 9:10 am
FAIL: Republican Tries To Show How Easy It Is To Commit Voter Fraud, Gets Arrested For Voter Fraud