Clark Aposhian, Utah’s Top Gun Lobbyist Assault Rifle Stolen. A Good Day for Some Air Guitar

Update May 28, 2013: Utah gun rights advocate Clark Aposhian arrested

March 29, 2013
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Airguitar

“Oh shoot,”

Clark muttered under his breath when he discovered his ‘baby’ had been stolen out of the the back seat of his car as it sat parked in front of his house. He walked back toward his open garage.

For the first time in his life, Clark knew the meaning of pants-around-ankles.  He shuttered to think about his next move. ‘Do I call the police,’ Clark thought to himself, ‘how will I face my gun safety students…or do I keep quiet and hope no one notices?’

“Shoot, shoot, SHOOT” he said, out loud this time.

Ever since the accident at the gun range, saying ‘shoot’ three times in a row always got Clark’s adrenaline going. This time was no different. Clark’s instincts kicked in. With the deftness of an eagle in flight, Clark swept the Glock out of his waistband cocking it with his arms outstretched above his head. Widening his stance, Clark slowly lowered the gun to eye level and squinted as if transfixed on an imaginary enemy.  Clark was a huge Clint Eastwood fan. He had perfected the “Clint squint” by first grade.

Seeing no immediate threat on the bucolic street at the end of his driveway, Clark spun around, crouched, and with both hands, aimed his gun toward the garage door.

“Don’t fuck with me,” Clark warned out loud as he crept back through the empty garage into his empty house, hoping none of the neighbors had noticed.

A tingle ran up his spine. His mind raced back to his childhood and the endless days playing Cops and Robbers with his best friend Lil’ Clyde.

“Damned, those were the days” Clark said to himself as he straightened out and placed the Glock back in his pants. Stepping into the serenity of his empty kitchen, his mind went blank as it often did, without notice.

Unable to remember what he had come into the house for, Clark went over to his old vinyl record player and put on his favorite ZZ Top album and began doing air guitar. As he arched his back, he felt the barrel of the Glock press into his flesh.

“Shoot” Clark said out loud, remembering the was a bullet in the chamber. Then Clark remembered why he had come back into the house.

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By now everyone has heard about this story. It highlights a couple of things.

1. Even the most responsible gun owners cannot protect us from the unintended consequences of gun ownership.

2. Refer to #1.

Personally, I’d like to know why Clark had a thermal-imaging scope attached to his rifle. As a lobbyist for the gun industry, I imagine Clark Aposhian has plenty of exotic freebies kicking around his house. But why was it actually ON THE GUN? What the fuck? Is there a new shooting sport we should know about?

Don’t miss the Wonkette’s satirical reflection on Clark’s big ooops: Utah Gun Lobbyist’s AR-15 Stolen Because SUV Couldn’t Defend Itself

Raw Story here.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/utah-gun-lobbyist-has-ar-15-stolen-from

Local Fox affiliate story here.

  1. #1 by Bob S. on March 29, 2013 - 2:54 pm

    Cliff,

    So instead of discussing the rampant property crime – that often goes unsolved- you focus on the firearm stolen?

    You focus on the ‘unintended consequences’ of gun ownership but fail to discuss the intended consequences of a criminal. Your priorities are messed up.

    As for as the ‘thermal imaging'; that is just another version of a ‘night vision’ system using IR instead of UV. If you have a problem with a resident having one, do you also have a problem with the police using them?

    Many scopes of that type are used to hunt varmints – nuisance animals like hogs or coyotes. Not knowing this shows your ignorance on the subject you are writing about.

  2. #2 by Cliff Lyon on March 29, 2013 - 3:13 pm

    Hey Bob S.

    This is a neighborhood issue. Clark lives in my hood. A very nice one I might add.

    Clark will never use his gun in self-defense
    Stay out of it

    • #3 by Bob S. on March 29, 2013 - 3:22 pm

      Cliff,

      Stuff it. You posted this on OneUtah, not a telephone post in Cliff’s neighborhood.

      So, a nice neighborhood experiences crime? What a shock. Why people might want to own firearms to protect themselves or their property.

      Next, people are upset that he had the firearm in his car. A firearm in a locked case inside a locked car in a good neighborhood. even.

      How much culpability does he have for the actions of a criminal?

  3. #4 by Cliff Lyon on March 29, 2013 - 3:45 pm

    Hey Bob,

    There’s an asshole running around my neighborhood with a stolen AR-15.

    Do I dig mine out of the basement and load it up and hide in the bushes?

    Or should I lock my doors and wait for the Sheriff to find him?

    • #5 by Bob S. on March 29, 2013 - 3:58 pm

      Cliff,

      How about digging yours out of the basement and keeping it in your bedroom where you can reach it if you have need while the police search for the criminal.

      Given the clearance rate on property crime, I doubt the crime will be solved.

      So again — who are you blaming for this? The gun owner or the criminal?

  4. #6 by Richard Warnick on March 29, 2013 - 3:50 pm

    According to this account, the AR-15 was left overnight in the back seat of the car, parked outside. Who does that?

    • #7 by Bob S. on March 29, 2013 - 3:59 pm

      Most major law enforcement departments often leave firearms in cars over night.

      So again…who is to blame? The gun owner or the criminal who stole the firearm?

      • #8 by Cliff Lyon on March 29, 2013 - 4:02 pm

        Bob S,

        So I should hide in the bushes?

      • #9 by james on March 29, 2013 - 4:14 pm

        How do you know that, Bob?

        • #10 by Bob S. on March 29, 2013 - 5:13 pm

          Same way this story got out. News reports.
          In addition, I know many officers in several jurisdictions.

          More importantly, why is the focus on the inanimate object and not the criminal willing to invade a ‘good neighborhood’ and steal from others?

      • #11 by Richard Warnick on March 30, 2013 - 12:14 pm

        I hope the Utah Highway Patrol officer who lives on my street and parks his UHP cruiser in the driveway doesn’t think it’s safe to keep firearms in the car!

      • #12 by Nathan Erkkila on April 1, 2013 - 1:23 am

        Law enforcement will usually leave a weapon in the trunk. This CIVILIAN on the other hand was an idiot who promoted gun safety and then left a weapon in plain site in the back seat of his car.

  5. #13 by Cliff Lyon on March 29, 2013 - 3:55 pm

    Richard,

    I would submit that guns are stolen everyday. I just wish Clark had a box of gummi bears in his trunk instead of an AR-15.

    • #14 by Bob S. on March 29, 2013 - 5:15 pm

      Why not wish for criminals not to steal?

      You continue to focus on the inanimate object instead of the person who decided to break several criminal laws and basic tenets of society by stealing!

  6. #15 by james on March 29, 2013 - 4:13 pm

    For all Clark knows, the perp might have the AR-15 trained on Clark’s noggin at this very minute. The irony is rich indeed. Hope you sleep well, Clark!

  7. #16 by Cliff on March 30, 2013 - 1:02 pm

    Hey Bob S.

    If someone stole a $1000 bucks cash from your car next door, I wouldn’t give a shit about the criminal, I would be more concerned with the fact that my neighbor is an idiot.

    But if someone stole a loaded gun from your car, I would be seriously PISSED!

    Oh yeah…THATS WHAT HAPPENED!

    • #17 by Bob S. on March 31, 2013 - 5:09 am

      Thanks for clarifying your position.

      Are you saying that if a criminal stole $1,000 and bought a gun that is okay…but if he steals a gun directly; then you have a problem?

      Can’t you see how deranged that is? You blame the victim instead of focusing on the actions of the criminal.

  8. #18 by brewski on March 30, 2013 - 2:28 pm

    So now Cliff has become the pro-crime blogger to add to his being on the record as being the pro-violence blogger?

  9. #19 by Larry Bergan on March 30, 2013 - 7:27 pm

    Funny post!

    Hope nobody gets shot!

    • #20 by Bob S. on March 31, 2013 - 5:10 am

      Larry,

      I also hope no one gets shot but I, unlike Cliff, realize that responsibility and accountability lies only with the criminal who stole the firearm.

      And that auto play on the music is dang annoying.

      • #21 by cav on March 31, 2013 - 8:53 am

        I second the ‘auto-play’ annoyance thingie!

        And, also, too, feel the accountability lies very much with the idiot who left ‘whatever it was’ that was so tempting to the criminal, lying on his back seat – so ripe for the plucking.

        Happy Easter.

        • #22 by Bob S. on March 31, 2013 - 2:40 pm

          Cav,

          So if I leave my car in my drive way — I’m responsible for someone stealing it?

          If I leave money in the glove box – or on the back seat — I’m responsible for someone stealing it?

          Of course not. The person break the social contract by stealing – he had to trespass in order to do that.

          Don’t confuse consequences (loss of the firearm) with responsibility for the actions later committed with that firearm.

          Any subsequent action with the firearm lies solely with the person who is using it. not the owner it was stolen from.

          • #23 by cav on March 31, 2013 - 3:07 pm

            What if Clark had left his firearm at the end of the driveway, what would the social contract have said about someone picking it up? A social contract that fails to recognize the presence of low-life degenerates and psychopaths, especially when they are so well covered by the media, must be faith based –

            Anyway, I like that you’re such a competent proponent of all things gun. And quick on the draw, as well.

          • #24 by Nathan Erkkila on April 1, 2013 - 1:25 am

            Bob S

            For someone who believes in the protection of the property, you sure do promote the reckless treatment of possession.

  10. #25 by Cliff Lyon on March 31, 2013 - 8:50 am

    Really Bob?

    Clark bears not a shred of responsibility for leaving an assault rifle in the back seat of his car, outside, overnight?

    May we assume then that his gun safety classes to not include anything about keeping your gun safe and out of the hands of “criminals?”

    • #26 by Bob S. on March 31, 2013 - 2:35 pm

      Cliff,

      Ever have anything stolen from you?
      If so, then that money could have been used to buy a gun and a crime committed with it.

      Do you bear responsibility for that possible crime?

      Clark is suffering the consequences of his actions – the loss of his property.

      Any actions committed with that firearm are the sole responsibility of the person committing the crime.

      How is this any different from the crimes committed with stolen cars?
      We don’t hold the owner responsible for a drive by or a fatality collision; just the driver.

      There are hundreds of lethal or potentially lethal items we don’t lock up in safes; cars, knives, prescription medicines, chain saws, axes, etc.

      The firearm was secured in a locked car, on private property, in a locked case.

      How many crimes did the criminal have to commit before touching the firearm?

      Trespassing? Yep.
      Burglary of a vehicle? Yep.
      Theft? Yep.
      At least 3 different crimes; before he even touched the firearm — why don’t you focus on that person’s responsibility?

  11. #27 by cav on March 31, 2013 - 9:01 am

    Now that Lent is over, I can begin commenting again. Erm, Father forgive me for I have sinned.

    I was pretty good til the Equinox!

  12. #28 by cav on March 31, 2013 - 9:34 am

    Cesar Chavez’ birthday.

  13. #29 by cav on March 31, 2013 - 3:47 pm

    Authorities say a 4-year-old girl was fatally shot while she was sitting in a car, and detectives are investigating whether another young child inside the car fired the gun.

    http://fremonttribune.com/news/national/year-old-girl-fatally-shot-in-car-in-miami/article_e2e4ddac-2096-5d5d-8373-45972249c635.html?comment_form=true

  14. #30 by cav on March 31, 2013 - 3:59 pm

    The second Kaufman County, TX, prosecutor to be shot dead lately.

    KAUFMAN, Texas (AP) — Kaufman County District Attorney Mike McLelland took no chances after one of his assistant prosecutors was gunned down two months ago. McLelland said he carried a gun everywhere he went and took extra care when answering the door at his home.

    “I’m ahead of everybody else because, basically, I’m a soldier,” the 23-year Army veteran said in an interview less than two weeks ago.

    On Saturday, he and his wife were found shot to death in their rural home just outside the town of Forney, about 20 miles from Dallas.

    All it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. And, oh, some air cover already called in.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/03/31/us/ap-us-district-attorney-dead-texas.html

  15. #31 by Bob S. on April 1, 2013 - 4:26 am

    Nathan Erkkila :
    Bob S
    For someone who believes in the protection of the property, you sure do promote the reckless treatment of possession.

    Nathan,

    Absolutely not true. I would prefer the firearm to be locked up inside the house but legally and morally there is no difference between it being secured in a vehicle and it being secured in a house.

    The criminal still world have had to break the law in order to obtain it either way. Why blame the victim?

    Law enforcement will usually leave a weapon in the trunk.

    Given that most people know firearms can and are stored in police cruisers, is there any ethical, moral, legal difference in leaving it in the back seat versus the trunk?

    Most of the newer cars have window tinting on the back windows that make it almost impossible to see what is on the seat.

    I have repeatedly said the owner is and should suffere the consequences of his actions – not excusing his action — but not buying that the owner is responsible for any subsequent crimes involving the firearm.

  16. #32 by Cliff Lyon on April 1, 2013 - 5:18 am

    Bob S,

    What is this “social contract” of which you speak? What else does it cover besides your property?

    • #33 by Bob S. on April 1, 2013 - 6:04 am

      Cliff,

      Society norms are a social contract — you know the whole aspect of “Thou Shall not steal” – or “Penal Code XXXX — Theft/Burglary”.

      Societies frown upon stealing that is why we codify the punishment for doing so into various laws and norms. We put people who steal in jail, we make it harder for people who have stolen to get jobs.

      The social contract also covers things like “Hey, stay out of my yard” — called Trespass in the legal code.

      You are so concerned about someone who left a firearm in a locked case in a locked car on his private property but don’t seem concerned about the person willing to break societal norms to steal.

      Makes me wonder why you are pro-criminal.

  17. #34 by Cliff Lyon on April 1, 2013 - 6:41 am

    Bob S,

    I just wanted to see what you really know about the long and deep subject of the Social Contract.

    As I suspected, you dont have a clue. You just made that ^^^ shit up.

    This one is especially funny (and wrong): “The social contract also covers things like “Hey, stay out of my yard”

    • #35 by Bob S. on April 1, 2013 - 8:58 am

      Cliff,

      Please educate me…how is trespassing not part of the social contract?

      Especially when the trespasser has criminal intent.

      I limited my reply regarding the social contract to the subject on hand. I find it interesting instead of replying with actual reasoning on how I am wrong — you make it an adhominem attack.

      Guess that is what you do when you don’t have an argument to make.

  18. #36 by brewski on April 1, 2013 - 9:48 am

    Cliff what do you know about the Social Contract? In the Social Contract I know, we promise to pay taxes to the government, and the government promises to spend that money wisely and prudently and not to waste it, use it to reward their political friends, nor to build civil service empires used to justify their jobs. That is a moral covenant by government which has been broken. When they redeem themselves then I will become a Democrat.

  19. #37 by cav on April 1, 2013 - 10:53 am

    The Social Contract is in perpetual re-write! As it should be.

    Now may we address the crimes the banksters and pols have been and are promulgating?

    The legal use of weaponry may be required. But somehow I believe sternly worded letters and other tools of diplomacy should be exhaustively utilized before we blow them away.

    Onward and upward brethren!

  20. #38 by Shane on April 1, 2013 - 7:26 pm

    I assume brewski’s explination of the social contract was posted today for a very specific reason….

  21. #39 by brewski on April 2, 2013 - 8:17 am

    I assume shane’s spelling of “explanation” was posted today for a very specific reason….

  22. #40 by Larry Bergan on April 3, 2013 - 5:21 am

    Moral covenant?

    Is that what Karl Rove made with the Bush crime family?

    Amoral is closer to it.

    Jeb for pres!

  23. #41 by Roman Wills on April 3, 2013 - 11:37 pm

    Where did you get that it was in his “back seat in plain sight” It never said that anywhere I looked. I know Clark, he would not have done that. He said on the radio that it was in a locked “Truck Vault” case which is more secure than in your own locked home in your basement. Police say it took more than 15 minutes to pry it open. Looks like he took extra ordinary precautions, and was likely targeted.

    • #42 by Richard Warnick on April 4, 2013 - 8:29 am

      See link in comment #6 above,

    • #43 by Bob S. on April 4, 2013 - 9:44 am

      Let’s look at what was said –by the reporter paraphrasing what Clark said — in the link in #6.

      Clark Aposhian, chairman of the Utah Shooting Sports Council, said his car was locked and parked outside his home on Wednesday, with his weapon secured in a case in the backseat.

      Had Clark actually said that it would have been in quote, right?

      So having a weapon secured in a case is hardly ‘in plain sight’ now is it Richard?

      Unless the thief was someone with X-Ray vision.

  24. #44 by cav on April 4, 2013 - 7:41 am

    That being the case, and my speculation being speculation only, it seems to me to point to a thief who had knowledge of the weapon. Who else rifles so intently through locks and such on a speculative venture into any old trunk, any old trunk box. I suspect the police are way ahead of me here, and I’m sorry for looking at Clark as though he’d been so remiss.

    • #45 by Bob S. on April 4, 2013 - 8:30 am

      Cav,

      Many thieves will case a house or area before breaking into the home or car. Wouldn’t take much for a thief to realize that something valuable has been left in the car. Didn’t even have to occur in the neighborhood either. Could have seen him at his business location or store putting it into the car and followed him home.

      Wonder how many other vehicles have been broken into in the area.

      Secure storage is a huge issue so let me ask in all sincerity — what is ‘secure enough’ in your mind?

      Bear in mind we leave knives in drawers, money on dressers, poisons in cabinets or under the sink, gasoline in sheds, etc.

      What does a responsible gun owner have to do to sufficiently secure his/her firearm?

  25. #46 by Bob S. on April 4, 2013 - 10:10 am

    Okay…how much responsibility does Chris Bosh have for the actions of the criminal?

    Certainly $340K can be used to buy a more than a single firearm, right?

    Thieves made off with an estimated $340,000 in jewelry from Miami Heat star Chris Bosh’s home while he was out celebrating his birthday.

    Read more: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/21880934/thieves-steal-340k-in-jewelry-from-chris-boshs-home#ixzz2PVlm4w4Y

    Is anyone going to chide him for failing to secure what amounts to a small fortune in jewelry?
    Is anyone going to discuss the unintended consequences of his ownership of these items?

  26. #47 by cav on April 4, 2013 - 1:31 pm

    BREAKING

    26 school children massacred in a hail of expensive, but stolen jewelry!

    Details at eleven.

    • #48 by Bob S. on April 4, 2013 - 2:10 pm

      Hilarious Cav but no one has been shot (that we know of ) with the stolen rifle.

      My point stands — where does the responsibility end?

      What if Clark had left cash in his car and the criminal used that to buy a firearm, Would Clark bear responsibility for the criminal buying a firearm and then committing additional crimes?

      Or if he had left easily converted valuables (like jewelry) in the car? Would Clark bear responsibility for the criminal stealing the jewelry, illegally pawning it, then illegally buying a firearm and then committing additional crimes?

      The entire premise behind the proposed gun control laws is “If we put enough rules on the law abiding, the criminals won’t be able to get guns”.

      Doesn’t make much sense to me, how about you?

      • #49 by Cliff Lyon on April 5, 2013 - 6:00 am

        Bob S,

        I’m pretty sure our readers are clear about your point. Repeating ad nauseum with different analogies doesn’t make it less stupid.

  27. #50 by Cliff Lyon on April 5, 2013 - 6:07 am

    The Bob S.’ argument as screen play.

    Bobby S Jr.: [ plunging index finger deep into nostril ] Hey Dad. Some criminal stole my assault rifle from my car last night?”

    Dad: Why did you leave your assault rifle in the car moron? And get your finger out of your nose.

    Bobby S Jr.: [ Inspecting fresh booger retrieved from nose ] Don’t blame me Dad, its not my fault. A criminal did it.

    Dad: The only thing criminal around here is your criminally dumb ass who just lost the privilege of having a gun as long as you live under MY roof you pathetic IDIOT!

    Bobby S. Jr,: [ Stomping feet ] Awe Daaaa___aad.”

    • #51 by Bob S. on April 5, 2013 - 6:26 am

      And notice the complete lack of logic, reasonable reply from Cliff.

      Nope, Cliff has nothing but adhominen attacks to offer. This is the face of gun control advocates.

      Repeating the argument Cliff is necessary to get an answer around here. I notice you fail to offer an answer.

      • #52 by Cliff Lyon on April 6, 2013 - 7:23 am

        Hey Bob S,

        If you ever catch me bothering to answer stupid questions posed by people who think more guns is the answer to gun violence, please just shoot me in the head.

        Right to Feel Safe

        • #53 by Bob S. on April 8, 2013 - 9:43 am

          Nice way to show that you — like most anti rights cultists — really don’t want to debate on “Utah’s Favorite Public Square for Loud Political Debate

          Way to show your hypocrisy Cliff.

  28. #54 by brewski on April 6, 2013 - 8:57 am

    Can we shoot you in the head anyway?

    • #55 by Larry Bergan on April 6, 2013 - 9:06 am

      Only if you wear a hood and run fast.

  29. #56 by obama's jack booted truncheon wielding goons on April 7, 2013 - 6:22 pm

    From the record I don’t believe anyone thinks you ask any logical questions Cliff, we just assume and prepare for stupid and then review to see if there is any merit or humor value in offering a response. Usually commenting on your stupid statements tends to rob them of their effect and power.

    Though the offer to shoot you in the head part is a very nice gesture from you.

    Have a good day.

  30. #57 by obama's jack booted truncheon wielding goons on May 28, 2013 - 8:05 pm

    ^^^The above is yet another one of obama’s jack booted truncheon wielding goons…there are so many! The above is not the first, no doubt will not be the last.

    Feel free to be one of obama’s jack booted truncheon wielding goons, every progressive worth his salt has. Prepare for the softer side of a goon’s life..prison in the case of “penis” holder, who knows for obama, maybe Moochelle will just lock his dumb ass in the attic..

  31. #58 by obama's jack booted truncheon wielding goons on May 28, 2013 - 8:12 pm

    In cliff’s case to be different, rather than a truncheon, he just wields his intellect, the vibrations are so low frequency, people have been known to just shit themselves in disbelief in his presence..once you’ve shit your pants, you have to be removed by fellows, and then at least 3 people have left the battlefield.

    Yes, cliff’s intellect has a similar tactical advantage to the AR-15. Don’t try leaving cliff in a trunk though in the hopes that someone steals him, that’s one bag of offal that would attract nothing but rats, other ones besides cliff. Maybe a somnambulistic dung beetle…yeah, that’s about it.

  32. #59 by cav on May 29, 2013 - 7:28 am

    I have my coffee, I’ve caught up on my work, and have a little time to see if my AR-15 with thermal-imaging scope might still be in the trunk.

  33. #60 by Richard Warnick on May 29, 2013 - 8:56 am

    This guy drives around Salt Lake City in an Army deuce and a half?

  34. #61 by Larry Bergan on May 29, 2013 - 7:11 pm

    Everybody should own a truck that makes the other drivers on the road think the army’s been deployed.

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