Let Me Try To Simplify This…

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When these stories are new, a lot of speculation goes on in the media; which is normal.

A man drives his truck up the capital steps in Utah – which were designed to not allow vehicles to drive up there – according to the Deseret News:

When the Capitol was renovated several years ago, the steps were built at a steeper angle as a security measure, designed to make a vehicle either bottom-out or be unable to make the climb.

“It was just the perfect-sized truck with the right amount of clearance to do what it did,” he said.

The same Deseret News aticle from page 1 claims:

Green has several DUI convictions and minor traffic violations, but no other criminal history in Utah.

The Salt Lake Tribune claims:

The man’s prior criminal history in Utah is minor: a few traffic violations and a charge of unlawful purchase, possession or consumption of alcohol by a minor when he was 18, according to a search of court records.

Some reports said the man wasn’t able to be tazed, but this report from The Associated Press said:

Troopers confronted him on the building’s third floor, where they stunned Green with a Taser, punched him in the face and arrested him.

I don’t know if this was a ploy to legalize marijuana or pump-up the drug war; a scheme to increase “Homeland Security” and the Bluffdale mega-spy-center or maybe it was only a youthful indiscretion.

Now here’s my point…

The fact remains that this dude could have just walked up those stairs and right into the building with a gun and shot anybody he wanted to, but he didn’t have a gun.

  1. #1 by Larry Bergan on October 26, 2013 - 12:13 am

    Just posted this at BradBlog, here in the comments section:


    How long does it take for a liberal to screw in a light bulb?


    As long as it takes. 🙂

  2. #2 by Nathan Erkkila on October 26, 2013 - 7:43 pm

    Let me simplify this. Think of the people who are gun nuts and think about how shit scary they are. That alone is a good reason to stay armed.

  3. #3 by Frank Kafka on October 27, 2013 - 2:08 pm

    Is there a point to your fear mongering?

    Hey! News flash! We are a nation led by a drone murder terrorist…utilizing the Nazi terror weapon at 8 times the rate of former war criminal terrorist leader..w booosh!

    If you wish to be terrified over something how’s about you focus on this murdering asshole you aided in being elected,…TWICE!!

  4. #4 by Larry Bergan on October 27, 2013 - 5:45 pm


    Owning a gun is way down on my list of priorities. I don’t know why anybody would want to shoot me. I’ve never harmed anybody and don’t have a lot of money.

    • #5 by Bob S. on October 28, 2013 - 9:35 am


      I suggest you pick up Rory Miller’s book “Facing Violence; Preparing for the Unexpected.”

      It is a good book that explains the difference between Social violence and Asocial violence; between a Resource Predator (you as a walking ATM ) and a Process Predator (you as a victim for their pleasure).

      Just because you don’t harm others and don’t have a lot of money (same as I) doesn’t mean others won’t seek to harm you.

      And to your post; the same person could have walked in carrying molotov cocktails, poison gas, knives, home made high explosives or dozens of other things.
      He didn’t.

      But since he used a common device; will you be calling for stricter controls on that device?
      Background checks, mental health exams, local law enforcement approval of purchases, etc?

  5. #6 by Frank Kafka on October 28, 2013 - 12:29 pm

    Larry, some folks just want stupid people dead. Check into Agenda 21..the UN plan for the depopulation of the Earth and management of humanity.

    Be advised they most very likely aren’t considering keeping you and yours around as anything less than servants or slaves..functionaries be about the best position in this coming new, yet old, way of Man.

    • #7 by Richard Warnick on October 29, 2013 - 9:31 am

      Oh yeah. A non-binding UN resolution adopted more than 20 years ago is our biggest problem. NOT.

      BTW sustainable development of natural resources is the only sane way to go. It’s been the foundation of American public land policy for more than a century.

  6. #8 by Larry Bergan on October 28, 2013 - 11:19 pm

    Jesus Christ Bob!

    How would I ever be able to tell if some asshole like you was ever going to attack me with: as you said:

    molotov cocktails, poison gas, knives, home made high explosives or dozens of other things.

    How the crap is a gun going to protect me from anything like that? You left out the Whamo slingshot!

    • #9 by cav on October 29, 2013 - 9:07 am

      ‘Evil Eye’!

      Hello everybody.

  7. #10 by Larry Bergan on October 29, 2013 - 6:48 pm

    Sorry Bob. 🙁

    I was a little overanimated last night at beddy time.

    • #11 by Bob S. on October 30, 2013 - 10:29 am


      It’s okay, I expect you to be more than a little irrational. Of course, you also miss the entire point as usual.

      I wasn’t referring to attacks on you using those items but on the Capitol building. Most people, including the TSA, always want to prevent the LAST attack from happening again, not caring or realizing that methods change. This is why AFTER the Shoe bomber, we have to take off our shoes.

      And to take your silliness as a reason to point out the simple truth; criminals don’t want victims that will or can fight back; they want the easiest victims mostly. There are some exceptions of course but for the most part it is true. Wouldn’t society be safer as a whole if criminals had to worry about their victim being well armed? If the criminals had to worry about more then the police being able to effectively stop them?

      I’m sure someone will cry “Wild West” — ignoring the fact that eastern cities had higher crime rates, or “Blood in the streets / fights over parking spots” — ignoring the reality of 49 states with some from of Concealed or Open Carry.

    • #12 by Richard Warnick on October 30, 2013 - 10:34 am

      It’s perfectly A-OK to carry a firearm into the Utah State Capitol. However, the result is not to make anyone feel safe. I went to a hearing that featured the Governor and the head of the BLM. Nobody was allowed to stand up during the hearing, we were instructed to remain seated at all times. State troopers were on hand ready to shoot anybody who stood up or looked like they might be reaching for a weapon.

      I always thought the “shoe bomber” was proof that al-Qaeda has a sense of humor. Making millions of travelers take their shoes off at the airport might just be the biggest practical joke of all time. Of course, it only worked because the TSA has no sense of humor.

    • #13 by Larry Bergan on October 30, 2013 - 8:40 pm

      What if somebody just had to go to the bathroom at a hearing?

      • #14 by Richard Warnick on October 31, 2013 - 7:58 am

        Those state troopers looked nervous. I would let somebody else try that first.

      • #15 by Larry Bergan on November 1, 2013 - 6:19 pm

        As far as I know, nobody has ever been shot at the state capitol. My experience there is that people are mostly willing to sit and hear what others who disagree with them have to say. Sure voices are passionate and raised at times, but that’s the way democracy works.

        Things are just getting ridiculous. How can we arrive at new ideas when everybody is paralyzed with fear.

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