McDonald’s Wants YOU To Pay Its Workers

h/t Low Pay Is Not OK

The video’s release comes a week after economists at the University of California Berkeley and the University of Illinois released a study finding that fast food workers in the US draw nearly $7 billion annually in taxpayer-funded federal aid, in the form of food stamps ($1 billion), Medicaid ($3.9 billion), and earned income tax credits ($1.9 billion). More than half of the 1.8 million “core” fast food workers who work at least 11 hours per week and 28 percent of those who work full time rely on some form of public assistance, according to the study.

More info: Recently released study by economists at the University of California, Berkeley and the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign: “Fast Food, Poverty Wages: The Public Cost of Low-Wage Jobs in the Fast Food Industry” (PDF).

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  1. #1 by Larry Bergan on October 25, 2013 - 5:26 pm

    I assume this is the same Nancy Salgado filmed telling the President of McDonalds that she’s worked for McDonalds for 10 years, and only makes $8.25 and hour. He barks back that he’s been there for 40 years.

    Gee, I’ll bet you he makes almost four times as much as Salgado. :D Except you have to take into account that if Salgado worked there for 40 years, she would still be making $8.25.

  2. #2 by Larry Bergan on October 25, 2013 - 5:30 pm

    I like this Nancy Salgado, but I don’t like paying to feed her children because McDonalds is a cheap excuse for a business.

  3. #3 by brewski on October 27, 2013 - 9:30 pm

    Why would anyone work at McDonald’s for 10 years?

    Why is she so unskilled that McDonald’s is the only place she can get a job? Whose fault is that?

    Why would anyone who only has the skills to work for McDonald’s for 10 years have 2 kids if she is incapable of caring for them?

    • #4 by Richard Warnick on October 28, 2013 - 9:12 am

      Part of right-wing up-is-downism: always blame the victim.

      “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”

      It actually does not matter if she has worked for McDonald’s 10 years or one day. Many fast food franchises don’t pay a living wage, which means their business model depends on taxpayer subsidies.

      • #5 by brewski on October 28, 2013 - 10:56 am

        False.

        • #6 by Richard Warnick on October 28, 2013 - 11:50 am

          Not false. True.

          • #7 by brewski on October 28, 2013 - 3:14 pm

            No. Not one word. Not opinion either.

          • #8 by Richard Warnick on October 28, 2013 - 4:21 pm

            You want to elaborate?

          • #9 by brewski on October 28, 2013 - 4:28 pm

            “Part of right-wing up-is-downism:”
            False.

            “always blame the victim.”
            False.

            “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”
            False.

            It actually does not matter if she has worked for McDonald’s 10 years or one day.”
            False.

            “Many fast food franchises don’t pay a living wage, which means their business model depends on taxpayer subsidies.”
            False.

            That simplify for you?

  4. #10 by cav on October 28, 2013 - 7:21 am

    She’s a damned ‘lefty’ and nobody, at least none of the serious, informed, aspiring upper eschalon people, likes her.

    Or maybe she lives around the corner.

  5. #11 by brewski on October 28, 2013 - 4:28 pm

    In moderation.

    • #12 by Richard Warnick on October 28, 2013 - 4:32 pm

      Fixed it, but you are still not making any sense.

      • #13 by brewski on October 28, 2013 - 4:42 pm

        It is hard to make sense against a point which makes no sense.

        Which part of none of that is true is hard for you to understand? Just take whatever you said and say the opposite and you’ll be pretty close.

  6. #14 by Larry Bergan on October 28, 2013 - 9:49 pm

    Thank you Nancy Salgado:

    Although there is NO record of Queen Marie Antoinette saying “let them eat cake”, there is a definite, recorded record of The President of McDonalds Corporation saying – essentially – the same thing.

  7. #15 by Larry Bergan on October 28, 2013 - 9:56 pm

    Of course, there is also a record of McDonalds steering their poor, sad employees to beg for money from the Federal Government. But they probably have the alternative option to get assistance from a faith-based-organiztion.

    Personally, I’ll pass on begging for things I’ve already paid for.

    Save your religion.

    • #16 by brewski on October 28, 2013 - 10:31 pm

      Larry,
      Whose responsibility is it for a person to gain skills so that they don’t have to work at McDonald’s?

      My sister worked at McDonald’s.
      My brother worked at Del Taco.
      I worked at Weinerschnitzel.

      We all realized that sucks and we all got skills to do something else.

      If you are still working in fast food 10 years later, you have no skills and you are trying to support a family on that then whose decision was that?

  8. #17 by Larry Bergan on October 29, 2013 - 12:28 am

    brewski/noname:

    You have no idea what I’ve done in my life and I have no intention of telling you my history, because people without real names only have one intention, and you know what that is.

    Go away dude!

    My name is real, (I’m in the book), and your name is obviously fake. Do you have anything else to add?

    • #18 by brewski on October 29, 2013 - 8:07 am

      It wasn’t about you per se. It was about all of us in general.

  9. #19 by Larry Bergan on October 29, 2013 - 7:42 pm

    brewski:

    A lot of Americans work at fast food restaurants because the jobs can’t be shipped out of the country. It really doesn’t have anything to do with how much college time you put in or how smart you are.

    Your disrespect for fast food workers is despicable. Their productivity is world class!

    • #20 by brewski on October 29, 2013 - 8:45 pm

      I have no disrespect for fast food workers. I was a fast food worker. I have disrespect for people who don’t take it upon themselves to increase their skills and then whine why someone else doesn’t pay them more to do something that is supposed to be only a part time entry level job for 16 year olds.

    • #22 by brewski on November 20, 2013 - 11:28 am

      How about these ideas:
      1. Don’t work at McDonald’s if you don’t like it
      2. Increase your skills
      3. Don’t buy stuff you don’t need
      4. Don’t let it more illegal aliens
      5. Don’t vote for someone who has exactly zero management or legislative accomplishments, ever
      6. Don’t vote for Democrats

      • #23 by Richard Warnick on November 20, 2013 - 11:49 am

        Many people work for McDonald’s and don’t like it, because they are way underpaid. The middle class is disappearing along with fair compensation for Americans who work for a living. That’s reality.

        • #24 by brewski on November 20, 2013 - 11:51 am

          A McDonald’s job was never a middle class job. You are smoking dope. If you don’t want to work at McDonald’s then increase your skills.

          Everyone in my family worked fast food. We all increased our skills and moved on. I suggest they do too.

          • #25 by Richard Warnick on November 20, 2013 - 12:17 pm

            The federal minimum wage has been declining in real terms since 1978. The difference between what McDonald’s pays its full-time American workers and what it costs for them to live is borne by the taxpayers via the social safety net. If you make $12.50/hour, you are in the middle class (barely).

            Meanwhile, in Australia, McDonalds pays up to $23/hour.

          • #26 by brewski on November 20, 2013 - 12:43 pm

            Why did I make more than the minimum wage when I worked at fast food?

          • #27 by brewski on November 20, 2013 - 12:47 pm

            “Up to” means maximum.

            “Minimum wage” means minimum.

            Are you stupid?

            Your own source shows their minimum wage as being $8.

          • #28 by Richard Warnick on November 20, 2013 - 6:17 pm

            You made a blanket statement that implied it’s impossible to make middle-class income at McDonald’s. I demonstrated the untruth of that statement – and without even citing the wages of managers!

            Anyway, thanks for defending the company that in effect tells its own employees: “If you’re short of money, sell your Christmas presents on Craig’s List because there’s no way you’ll ever get a raise working at McDonald’s!”

          • #29 by brewski on November 20, 2013 - 7:25 pm

            I thought you were talking about minimum wage and then you start talking about maximum wage. Forgive me for not being able to follow your stream of consciousness.

            Again, if you don’t like McDonald’s then don’t work there.

          • #30 by Richard Warnick on November 21, 2013 - 9:40 am

            At the risk of pointing out the obvious, the desperate situation of workers in The Republican Economy helps McDonald’s mistreat their employees. You seem to think all they have to do is snap their fingers to get another job!

          • #31 by Guardsman on November 21, 2013 - 10:20 am

            They could all join the Guard.

  10. #32 by Thomas Atwater on November 21, 2013 - 11:00 am

    Typical of most fascist empires, the choices are legion, or slaves, or be so lucky as to be born aristocrat. Fascism distills diversity quite effectively.

    Don’t know if any kids nowadays can do 22 years in this man’s army and get his 40 acres (pension), like Roman Legionnaires, retire hopefully in peace if endless war doesn’t kill ya in your 22 yr hitch.

  11. #33 by Thomas Atwater on November 21, 2013 - 11:08 am

    Remember who is Caesar, Richard, and then you can catch a clue as to whose economy it is.

    If you are still playing the red team, blue team game there is no hope for the middle class’s survival. The collapse of the US has been a bipartisan affair. It’s Just by now Americans are so wrapped up in their own bullshit political beliefs they cannot seem to notice. Those that pretense to care anyway, so many others simply rolling any way they can in this anarchic state.

    So free doesn’t mean free, and it all depends on what the definition of is..is. Let the least of us sacrifice most, exalt those on high, your Macdonald’s slinging shit life isn’t worth a stump anyway..

    • #34 by Richard Warnick on November 21, 2013 - 12:49 pm

      If you follow my posts, you know I’m as independent as they come. Not on anyone’s team or part of anybody’s “base.”

  12. #35 by Frank Kafka on November 21, 2013 - 3:02 pm

    That’s funny, guess you have to work on your presentation, you only sound like you are in the tank for the inveterate liar in chief.

    It was an “if” proposition, though you have no problems making excuses for the man.

  13. #37 by Larry Bergan on December 17, 2013 - 7:07 pm

    We should force the president of McDonalds to stand on the sidewalk with a sign to get those billions.

    Please help me, I’m a McDonalds veteran of forty years.

  14. #38 by Richard Warnick on July 29, 2014 - 3:58 pm

    McDonalds Loses Ability To Shield Itself From Worker Lawsuits. The term “game changer” is overused, but it applies in this case.

    In a ruling that raises the stakes for numerous fast food worker efforts, the National Labor Relations Board’s (NLRB) top lawyer said on Tuesday that McDonald’s Corp. is responsible for the actions of the owner-operator franchisees who run the vast majority of its stores.

    The arrangements McDonald’s makes with its franchisees have long been understood to insulate the corporation from worker lawsuits. Because the buck stopped with individual owner-managers rather than with at the company’s Illinois headquarters, worker lawsuits and unionization efforts were limited in scope and unable to seek remedies from the company’s $5.6 billion in annual corporate profits.

    Workers have repeatedly challenged that interpretation of the franchisee relationships, most recently in a slew of class-action wage theft lawsuits this spring. Those cases centered on a computer system installed by McDonald’s at franchisee stores that compares labor costs to money coming in in real-time, encouraging managers to fiddle with workers hours and timesheets as necessary to keep that expenses ratio as low as possible at all times.

    The suits named both franchisees and McDonald’s itself, and workers and attorneys were optimistic that the legal challenges would poke holes in the company’s claims to legal indemnity. Tuesday’s ruling did just that, though it stemmed from separate, older claims involving workers who had attempted to unionize and were fired in retaliation.

    “McDonald’s has tried to avoid the obligations associated with employing the vast majority of the people who prepare and serve their food,” worker attorney Micah Wissinger said on an afternoon press call, “but the reality is they require franchisees to adhere to strict rules.”

  15. #39 by Larry Bergan on July 29, 2014 - 7:12 pm

    I have to correct something here. I never worked at McDonald’s. I DID work in the optical industry and was paid to produce fast-food-eyeglasses at the most furious pace I could invoke. I have worked at another fast-food place since the place I worked for was closed down.

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