Pope Drives The Financial District Crazy

Hopefully making “The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints” leaders sit up in their chair a little.

But let’s not kid ourselves, The Vatican has a lot more assets to sell in helping the poor.

  1. #1 by brewski on December 8, 2013 - 1:54 am

    Does that mean that the left is all of a sudden going to listen to the pope about gay marriage and abortion?

    Or are you all just being hypocrites, again?

    • #2 by cav on December 8, 2013 - 9:17 am

      Just being hypocrites, again.

      From Nelson: “We first broke the law in a way which avoided any recourse to violence; when this form was legislated against, and then the government resorted to a show of force to crush opposition to its policies, only then did we decide to answer violence with violence.

      My colleagues and I, after careful consideration, decided that we would not obey this decree. The African people were not part of the government and did not make the laws by which they were governed.

      We believed in the words of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, that “the will of the people shall be the basis of authority of the government”, and for us to accept the banning was equivalent to accepting the silencing of the Africans for all time.
      .
      The government’s answer was to introduce new and harsher laws, to mobilize its armed forces, and to send Saracens, armed vehicles, and soldiers into the townships in a massive show of force designed to intimidate the people.

      The government had decided to rule by force alone, and this decision was a milestone on the road to Umkhonto.”

      There’s a time to disagree with ‘the authorities’…even the Pope

  2. #3 by Richard Warnick on December 8, 2013 - 11:29 am

    Stuart Varney knows that all good Catholics have a duty to speak up and correct the Pope when he’s wrong. ;-)

  3. #4 by Larry Bergan on December 8, 2013 - 4:02 pm

    brewski:

    I’m down with Pope Francis on gay marriage and abortion. He’s quoted as saying:

    the Church needs to stop being ‘obsessed’ with abortion and gay marriage

    I guess you missed that.

    • #5 by cav on December 8, 2013 - 5:38 pm

      “While the pope reiterates the church’s rejection of abortion as a moral choice and implicitly condones the marginalization of LGBTQ people, it is his blessing of a male-only priesthood that is arguably the most damaging, for it renders the church as a model justification for the view of women as subhuman—a view that lends cover to the rapist, the pimp, the bigot, and the chauvinist whose works the pope decries, even as he advances stereotypes about the “feminine genius” that women have to offer in acts of compassion and intuition.”

      • #6 by Larry Bergan on December 8, 2013 - 7:03 pm

        I will always admire Jimmy Carter for standing up against his church for treating women as second class citizens.

  4. #7 by Larry Bergan on December 8, 2013 - 6:49 pm

    This is a REAL pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be interesting if the Pope accepted an invitation to go on “Real Time” with Bill Maher?

    As a matter fact, since Jesus was resurrected, he must be out there somewhere. Maybe he could go on ” The McLaughlin Group” and hand Pat Buchanan his ass.

    What is Pat Buchanan doing on public television anyway? :(

  5. #8 by Larry Bergan on December 8, 2013 - 6:55 pm

    If the Koch brothers can make 3 million dollars a minute, I don’t see why fast food workers can’t make $100,000 an hour. At least they’re not going to spend it destroying our political system with a plethora of fake grass roots orgs.

    Update:

    The three million dollars a minute might not be happening, but it makes you wonder. :) The plethora of fake grass roots organizations comment is an understatement.

  6. #9 by cav on December 8, 2013 - 7:09 pm

    Plethora of fake grassroots orgs – plague of locust…essentially the same thing.

  7. #10 by Larry Bergan on December 8, 2013 - 9:02 pm

    Locusts just came to eat. The billionaires club is mooning us while eating:

    I think “The John Birch Society” was probably the first fake grass roots “movement” – co-founded by daddy Koch – , which changed it’s name to “The Heritage Foundation”. That’s what I heard; I’ll leave the burden of proof on the Koch bro’s here, because I can.

    I love this video:

    • #11 by cav on December 9, 2013 - 9:12 am

      Perfect.

  8. #12 by Larry Bergan on December 8, 2013 - 10:05 pm

    American religious compassion on display:

  9. #13 by Richard Warnick on December 9, 2013 - 8:08 am

    Conservatives Attack The Pope (Good luck with that).

    • #14 by Larry Bergan on December 9, 2013 - 4:00 pm

      Rush Limbaugh actually said:

      There’s no such — “unfettered capitalism”? That doesn’t exist anywhere.

      Wow!

      Rush says he not a Catholic, but then falls all over himself making sure the capitalist Catholic supreme court members know how greatly he respects the religion. It must be interesting to know what those judges are thinking about the pope. Especially Scalia who makes logic stand on it’s head. That recent interview he gave was just surreal.

  10. #15 by Frank Kafka on December 9, 2013 - 4:11 pm

    You guys are so in the weeds quoting the pope. The institution has no credibility anymore, no gravitas, it is just a shell of it’s former brown people murdering child fucking self.

    I wouldn’t reference it in any progressive movement again. Just sayin.

  11. #16 by Frank Kafka on December 9, 2013 - 4:14 pm

    The Catholic Church has been indicted as a world wide criminal organization. Child murder and fornicating not the least of it. True Horrors.

    Wake up, why be true to monsters just because they promote your sickened ideology?

    http://itccs.org/

    • #17 by Larry Bergan on December 10, 2013 - 3:43 pm

      Relax Frank, I’m not going to join the Catholic church, I just think it’s fun to watch the pot being stirred and I’d still like to hear what the Catholic Supreme Court of The United States of America has to say about it. In fact. that was a pretty good article you just linked to.

  12. #18 by Richard Warnick on December 10, 2013 - 5:45 pm

    As a former Roman Catholic, I’m here to tell you that you can dial it back a little. The Church (not the one in Utah) is a HUGE organization, and all kinds of people are in it – the vast majority of them good people. There are an estimated 1.2 billion Roman Catholics in the world.

  13. #19 by Frank Kafka on December 10, 2013 - 6:05 pm

    That is the whole point Richard, no one is backing off until the filthy administration of the Catholic Church has paid its debts in full.

    If that requires it’s end as an entity as it has been known, then so be it. The abomination has existed far too long.

    If ye be good people you will police the internal filth of the Church and make amends.

  14. #20 by Frank Kafka on December 10, 2013 - 6:07 pm

  15. #21 by Frank Kafka on December 10, 2013 - 6:08 pm

    and admits it’s full guilt, excommunicates the convicted members, makes reparations, quits the hiding game, bunch of filthy animals…

  16. #22 by Larry Bergan on December 10, 2013 - 6:08 pm

    The vast majority of people, period, are good people, but it’s too easy to ignore bad things that are going on in your name even when you know what some of those things are.

  17. #23 by Richard Warnick on December 10, 2013 - 6:36 pm

    Everybody shooting at the messenger is missing by a mile, whether it’s Stuart Varney or Glenn Hoefer. The Pope’s message is the problem for the 1 Percent. Capitalism is antithetical to Christianity.

    • #24 by brewski on December 10, 2013 - 9:51 pm

      Shooting the messenger is your only tactic. That’s all you do and then you criticize when others do it? Ha!

    • #25 by brewski on December 10, 2013 - 10:34 pm

      1. You don’t know what capitalism is.

      2. You don’t know what Christianity is.

      3. You can’t make any comments about either (1) or (2) from a position of pure ignorance of both.

      • #26 by Nathan Erkkila on December 10, 2013 - 10:57 pm

        I highly doubt you know what capitalism is, who theorized it and what system was there before.

        • #27 by brewski on December 10, 2013 - 11:04 pm

          False.

        • #28 by Richard Warnick on December 11, 2013 - 7:06 am

          Trick question. ;-)

  18. #29 by Richard Warnick on December 11, 2013 - 1:06 pm

    Talking Points Memo:

    A Washington Post/ABC News poll released Wednesday found plenty of love to go around for Pope Francis, who was named Time’s person of the year on Wednesday. Overall, he’s viewed favorably by 69 percent of all American adults. The pope’s infallibility also seems firmly in check among his stateside flock: 92 percent of American Catholics said they view him favorably, compared with a mere four percent who view him unfavorably.

  19. #30 by Larry Bergan on December 11, 2013 - 7:09 pm

    I was raised as a Mormon, but quit because I saw the organization as too money-oriented, but at 15, I also wanted Sunday’s off. I would be excited if the Mormon leadership would say a few things as strong as what the pope said against the unbridled greed we’re seeing today. When I quit in 1967, things were much more sane then they are now.

    I’m not holding my breath.

  20. #31 by Frank Kafka on December 12, 2013 - 2:04 pm

    It’s mere cover.

    There’s little for the church’s complicity in capitalism and murders galore, throughout the many years of its ages.

    The church often the controlling power in the hand and glove of colonial and capitalist exploitation..to fawn now is just a bit embarrassing..or indicative of an entity desperately attempting to ward off the revelations of the truth concerning the murderous exploitative nature of the Roman Catholic Church, even now.

    Whosoever has the church in their sights in earnest, are to be commended for their courage, the church has murdered all manner if people that have threatened its power.

    The Vatican is not immune to the repercussions and consequences for its ghastly crimes. It’s 2013.

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