Lions, Christians and Fake Oppression . . . oh my

My schedule has been unbelievably frantic for about six months so my usual blogging habits are taking a beating.

That said, I want to linkfarm a couple great articles.

First, Paul Waldman’s “Thrown to the Lions” from the Prospect:

There have been many odd and interesting developments in American conservatism in the last few years, but there are few that liberals find more incomprehensible than the belief among many conservative Christians that not only are they currently being oppressed for their religious beliefs, but that today’s outrages are but a prelude to a far more vicious and violent crackdown on Christianity that is right around the corner.

Then Martin Longman’s take down at the Washington Monthly of Jim DeMint’s absurd ahistorical frankly fucking stupid reasoning about the Civil War:

There’s a certain splendor to Heritage Foundation president Jim DeMint’s retelling of the history of the Civil War.  It’s almost as if DeMint and Sarah Palin are both graduates of the same finishing school for garbled buffoonery.  I think this comment belongs on a plaque in the Smithsonian as a living testament to what has become of conservative “thought leaders” in this country.

Then nice piece from Ed Kilgore at the Washington Monthly:

The Mike Huckabee speech in Iowa that provided the jumping-off point for Paul Waldman’s argument about the limited power of the Christian Right is interesting in its own right. It also strikes me as relevant to the disagreement I seem to be having with Jonathan Chait about the distinction I’ve made between objective racist policies and arguments and the subjective state of mind of those who promote them.

I like Kilgore’s piece because he touches on an idea I’ve been pondering with regard to marriage equality – lots of people declare themselves unbigoted and say they have no problem with gay folk, yet support policies which objectively harm gay persons.  In a sense, it gets back to a video I shared ages ago, it’s not what’s in your heart, it’s that thing you said or did that matters.

  1. #1 by cav on April 10, 2014 - 9:19 pm

    I think the ‘religious’ right are having the same difficulties in the face of the preponderance of mind numbing material culture, that so many of the rest of us are having. The tiniest thread of spiritualism is likely to be promoted as ‘the next big thing’ about as quickly as we can polish the thought. IOW their ‘A-woe-Is-A-me-Bop’ is pretty much what Muslims, agnostics, and Pagans have been experiencing for a long long time.

    Adjusting to an outlet the size of One man or woman, is always a challenge when you thought your TRIBE held all of the cards.

    I’d also like to restate the sometimes forgotten fact that not all Christians are of the Huckabee breed. Too many soul searching liberals are perpetually trying to fit all of the ‘march of science’ into their belief framing – it too takes a bit of time to digest – it requires a very open mind, it does. Christian and other godly creations none-the-less.

    Too much of the Rights whine is less religious that political, and 9/10ths is utter blather as it’s directed towards creating good little plebes, unquestioning of political authority. Should the sheep ever look behind the curtain…Dementh and Hukabee shredding the controls might just have them transforming back into the Rock’n n Rollin’ people their god created.

  2. #2 by Larry Bergan on April 10, 2014 - 9:47 pm

    When somebody says your beliefs are silly, it doesn’t mean they’re out to get you, it just means that you think their beliefs are silly. Really just trying to help.

  3. #3 by cav on April 10, 2014 - 10:15 pm

    I have to laugh when Ayn Rand worshiper Paul Ryan claims to be Catholic.

  4. #4 by Richard Warnick on April 11, 2014 - 8:45 am

    Spielberg’s “Lincoln” (2012) brilliantly set forth the idea that without the 13th Amendment, the Civil War might have been indecisive. Imagine if the states of the former confederacy were welcomed back as if nothing had happened. Yet many members of Congress considered doing exactly that.

    Head Of Top Conservative Think Tank Makes Spectacularly Uninformed Statement About Slavery

  5. #5 by cav on April 11, 2014 - 1:16 pm

    Oh it’s real oppression! The Christians think it’s the devil doing the oppressing, people less mystically inclined think it’s the bankers and MIC.

    For me, I say, ‘scratch the devil and you find a war profiteer or banker’. Simple, I know, but…

  6. #6 by Larry Bergan on April 11, 2014 - 8:23 pm

    For all of Ryan’s bluster, he’s probably going to be driven around in a bullet-proof Pope-like mobile if he takes the presidency like Bush Jr. did. That limo gunning it down Pennsylvania Ave. after the scam inauguration was just a preview of the silliness and tragedy to come.

  7. #7 by Larry Bergan on April 11, 2014 - 8:26 pm

    Everything a banker or war-profiteer does is legal, but protesting them isn’t. It’s a sweet system, baby!

    You’d think the Christians would be upset, but all I’ve seen from them is ignorance about the issue. Well, on TV anyway.

  8. #8 by Larry Bergan on April 13, 2014 - 10:40 pm

    Recently, Bush Jr. read what he called his favorite quote from president Lyndon Johnson at a gathering of presidents.

    I’m not going to look it up, but it’s a good one. Went something like this; ‘if I walked on water, the next day, the papers would be reporting that the president couldn’t swim’.

    Funny, how Republican’s can’t ever come with their own quotes if they don’t fit on a bumper sticker.

    Actually, not that funny.

    • #9 by Richard Warnick on April 14, 2014 - 11:47 am

      When you connect George W. Bush to the concept of walking on water, you get “Chauncey Gardiner” from “Being There” (1979).

      Of course, “Chauncey” could walk on water because he was so insubstantial – and the PTB wanted to make him President. Who knew that movie was a warning of things to come?

  9. #10 by cav on April 14, 2014 - 12:21 pm

    I’ve drawn blanks when trying to put up YouTubes. Richard, you described the recipe a month or so ago. Would you please do so again?


    • #11 by Richard Warnick on April 14, 2014 - 2:58 pm

      If you’re on the YouTube site, just look underneath the video to where it says “Share” (just to the right of “About”). Click on “Share” and underneath that you will see three choices: “Share this video,” “Embed,” and “Email.” Click on “Embed” and copy the embed code. Many videos have a pick list so you can control the size (in pixels). Wider than 560 pixels is too wide for One Utah.

  10. #12 by cav on April 14, 2014 - 3:45 pm


  11. #13 by Larry Bergan on April 14, 2014 - 4:45 pm

    Yeah, YouTube changed the procedure for embedding a while back. You didn’t used to have to take two steps to do it.

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