Media Welcomes Back Consistently Wrong Iraq ‘Experts’… Wolfowitz, Feith, Bremer, Kristol… Even Judith Miller!


Via HuffPo: CNN’s Erin Burnett Confronts Paul Bremer Over His Iraq Failures

This morning my breakfast was spoiled when Paul Wolfowitz — Paul Wolfowitz! came on MSNBC to pontificate about Iraq. I don’t want to look at that guy, much less hear what he has to say about Iraq of all subjects!

I don’t want to minimize the suffering of the Iraqi people, who are being shafted in the worst possible way by both the Maliki government and the ISIS insurgents, but there is something seriously wrong with our media when Doug Feith is treated as an expert on Iraq (by Politico). For those who don’t remember, Feith was known as “the Undersecretary of Defense for Fiascoes.” General Tommy Franks once described Feith as “the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth.”

And Paul Bremer. Paul Bremer! The guy who started the Sunni insurgency in the first place by disbanding the old Iraqi government and dismissing their entire army without pay. He was on CNN (see video). I don’t like Erin Burnett, but even she is smart enough to realize that Paul Bremer has no business giving anybody advice about Iraq.

We didn’t miss Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, only because he never went away. Kristol infamously predicted the Iraq conflict was “going to be a two month war,” (the war lasted approximately 104 months) and testifying in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee urging military action, he proclaimed that “American and alliance forces will be welcomed in Baghdad as liberators.”

Ari Fleischer is back, too. As Press Secretary in the Bush administration, Fleischer was in charge of selling the illegal invasion of Iraq, claiming “there’s no question that if force is used, it will achieve the objective of preserving the peace far faster than the current path that we’re on.”

Judith Miller, the NYT reporter who spun fanciful tales about Saddam’s nonexistent arsenal of so-called “weapons of mass destruction,” now appears on the Faux News Channel to talk about Iraq. Presumably they even pay her.

What is the matter with our news media?

More info:
Iraq War Boosters Get Second Chance In Media Spotlight
The People Who Broke Iraq Have A Lot of Ideas About Fixing It Now
CNN’s Cuomo Calls Out Bush Administration’s Paul Wolfowitz For GOP Hypocrisy On Iraq
True Chyrons For Bush-Era Iraq War ‘Experts’
Rachel Maddow Hammers Media For Booking Iraq War Hawks Who Got Things So Wrong

  1. #1 by cav on June 17, 2014 - 2:04 pm

    I know it’s so last week, but this is the QED to why college graduates were right to refuse to listen to bullshit from Condi Rice, et al.

  2. #2 by Shane Smith on June 17, 2014 - 4:18 pm

    It is also worth pointing out that the ISIS movement now has the weapons we left after the last time in.

    Just like we created the Saddam problem when we fixed the problem before him, and just like we created the Osama problem when we fixed the Russia problem before him, now we need to fix the ISIS problem we created.

    But don’t worry, they know what to do this time round!

  3. #3 by cav on June 17, 2014 - 4:25 pm

    The right has been rendered totally mad by the arrest of the Benghazi suspect.

  4. #4 by Shane on June 17, 2014 - 8:04 pm

    They only pretended to catch him now in order to help Hilary’s book tour don’t you know…

  5. #5 by cav on June 17, 2014 - 8:06 pm

    Oh, that’s right. She was going down to Mitt, unless something was done.

    • #6 by Larry Bergan on June 17, 2014 - 8:38 pm

      Was lucky enough to retrieve your comment cav. An old Monty Python skit about spam comes to mind.

  6. #7 by cav on June 17, 2014 - 8:38 pm

    Thanks.
    Re the Post, It’s bad enough these scoundrels go unpunished, but inviting them on TV and not limiting questions to those containing the word “clusterfuck” is doubly shameful..

  7. #8 by cav on June 17, 2014 - 8:46 pm

    Pstt, Larry. Does this comment make me look fat? Perhaps I should lay off the spam…If you get my drift. TIA

  8. #9 by lake of fire on June 17, 2014 - 9:34 pm

    The jew filth is still running’ the show.

    • #10 by Larry Bergan on June 17, 2014 - 9:51 pm

      You must have been ridiculed in junior high for having “of” for a middle name.

      I’m sorry.

    • #12 by Larry Bergan on June 18, 2014 - 8:14 pm

      The Rachel Maddow segment is a long one, but it’s amazing. Imagine what could happen, if we started to trust the media again.

  9. #13 by cav on June 18, 2014 - 4:02 pm

    Duplicate comment my ass! Yet I can edit this peice of shit til the cows come home. 4 edits, but do you think I could install a little ‘content’? Hell no.

    5 edits.

    7

    • #14 by Larry Bergan on June 18, 2014 - 7:52 pm

      Sorry cav, I couldn’t find your comment in the spam bucket, and I went in thirteen levels. :( :(

      That gets a double frown.

  10. #15 by cav on June 18, 2014 - 7:58 pm

    I’ll attempt a ‘Thanks anyway’, because ya done good work Larry. I seem to be defunkt.

  11. #16 by cognitive dissonance on June 18, 2014 - 8:16 pm

    Site’s a piece of shit, lacks credibility..sorta like the obamacare site.

  12. #17 by cognitive consonance on June 18, 2014 - 8:22 pm

    Having the same trouble.

    Have people forgotten what the obama narrative was after our people were murdered in Benghazi? The event was a “spontaneous” reaction to a shitty Ben Afleck movie denigrating Islam, no terrorists, no ringleaders…

    Now we are to believe that the instigator has been captured at the very moment Iraq is descending into a black hole.

    In the words of the winged monkey SOS Hillary Clinton (s) another black hole…

    “What does it matter”?

    She, and the boob president are gonna fry.

  13. #18 by cognitive dissonance on June 18, 2014 - 9:11 pm

    And here we thought the murders in Benghazi were non terroristic, leaderless, and the result of Ben Aflecks shitty movie.

  14. #19 by nice wrack! on June 18, 2014 - 9:27 pm

    Pretty sure know nothing Larry fucked the site parameters up with his constant attempts to censor the writings of others.

  15. #20 by Larry Bergan on June 18, 2014 - 9:48 pm

    “Larry fucked the site parameters up”?

    That was pretty broad.

  16. #21 by Larry Bergan on June 18, 2014 - 10:01 pm

    cav:

    We’ve been through worse!

  17. #22 by nice wrack! on June 19, 2014 - 1:19 am

    When you find a pretty broad Larry, let us know, maybe you will stop obsessing over whether the opinions of others merit your compulsive censorship.

  18. #23 by Richard Warnick on June 20, 2014 - 9:34 am

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: “The only thing I want to hear from Iraq war architects is an apology.”

    • #24 by Larry Bergan on June 20, 2014 - 7:40 pm

      Don’t get mad Krystol, get even!

      I say, “let’s waterboard everybody”, including you, until we start to get some real questions answered here.

      All in good “college prank” fun, of course.

  19. #25 by Anonymous on June 20, 2014 - 4:35 pm

    Says the asshole who led his party to vote to pay for it all every time a dollar was needed.

    He could take some cues from the Tea Party. Best case for an obstructionist congress I ever heard given what we see now of the Iraq debacle.

    Is anyone still listening to this jerk off?

  20. #26 by cav on June 20, 2014 - 6:04 pm

    Barbara Lee’s amendment to prohibit funding combat operations in Iraq failed because 44 Democrats joined 206 GOPers. http://shar.es/M00l8

    BlueDogs and NeoCons

    • #27 by Larry Bergan on June 20, 2014 - 8:06 pm

      Don’t worry cav. We’ll just vote the bluedogs out on machines manufactured by banks, punchcards designed to fail, false accusations against ACORN, voter caging, polling place intimidation, flyers telling democrats to vote on the wrong day, people signing up voters who throw away democrat registrations and get off scott free, comically long lines at democratic voting locations, fake mobs bussed into Florida to make sure Gore’s votes couldn’t overcome Bush votes.

      And many other methods to make a mockery out of American democracy, but the best one is when exit polls do a 180 in the middle of the night to reflect the outcomes of the voting machines and John Kerry is too scared to fight for the victory we gave him.

      I’m think we may be seeing the media realizing the huge mistakes they’ve made, but I’m not holding my breath.

  21. #28 by Larry Bergan on June 20, 2014 - 8:11 pm

    And one more thing…

    Dick Cheney and the rest of your ilk – too many to list here-. I speak for the American people when I tell you to shut-the-fuck-up and go away!

    Honor your country and the soldiers for once. Just die.

    • #30 by Larry Bergan on June 24, 2014 - 6:41 pm

      From the article:

      Fact: You can’t talk about the Iraq War without addressing the central role the U.S. news media played during the run-up to the invasion, and the fevered and futile hunt for weapons of mass destruction. And that’s why the current move to treat failed war sponsors as knowledgeable experts might also be seen as an effort by some journalists to put behind them the massive media missteps that led to the war.

      Meaning, the reason the press doesn’t think it’s strange having the people who got everything wrong about the war on TV today is because so much of the Beltway press got the same things wrong 11 years ago.

      The media has egg on it’s face from over ten years ago and they didn’t bother to even clean it off. The coverage was never “fair and balanced” on ANY television “news” show, including Phil Donahue’s show which was quickly canceled because he wanted people who told the truth.

      All I had at the time was dial-up internet. Every place I frequented there turned out to be right. The war was a scam from the start. The invasion of Iraq was planned by the bastards in 1997 and was documented on the PNAC site before they took the part about America needing a new Pearle Harbor event off.

      Seeds of democracy?

      Seeds of out-of-control capitalism was the real aim. People who promoted that aim were payed well and couldn’t lose, moneywise. Others, like Phil Donahue got disappeared.

      Sorry MSNBC, but what about PNAC?

    • #32 by Larry Bergan on June 24, 2014 - 7:06 pm

      Is Judith Miller Dick Cheney’s mom?

      Criticizing wars of choice which nobody wins isn’t helpful?

      There is a reason all of these “experts” went into seclusion after the utter failure of their money-grubbing policies finally seeped through the American conscienceless. It’s time for all of them to spend much more time in Cheney’s undisclosed basement/bunker.

  22. #33 by Larry Bergan on June 24, 2014 - 7:10 pm

    Off topic, but I went through 925 spam comments yesterday and 350 spam comments today and only found one brewski comment yesterday which I released.

    Maybe the worst is over.

    If you’re like me, you love having your comments show up immediately. I wouldn’t even begin to surmise :) that somebody would be hacking this site, which is controversial to liars.

  23. #34 by lazy larry on June 24, 2014 - 8:11 pm

    Don’t imagine it would take much to qualify as spam in lazy Larry Bergen’s world.

    Intellectually lazy I would qualify, he says he works, dunno what kind of bargain that is for his employer.

    • #35 by Larry Bergan on June 24, 2014 - 10:04 pm

      You spelled my name wrong.

      How would I know how to delete your comments or not, when you don’t even have the same name from comment to comment, lazy?

      Don’t worry. The spam comments don’t resemble human beings yet and I released a comment you made.

  24. #36 by lazy larry on June 25, 2014 - 11:30 pm

    Don’t try to figure it out Larry..wouldn’t want you to burst your brain bubble.

  25. #37 by cav on June 26, 2014 - 5:33 pm

    So Obama is going to train and arm people to fight the Syrian rebels we previously trained and armed who are going into Iraq to fight the people we trained and armed there who replaced the guy we overthrew after we trained and armed him?

    • #38 by Richard Warnick on June 27, 2014 - 9:58 am

      Woody Allen nailed the cluelessness of U.S. foreign policy back in 1971 when he wrote “Bananas.” There is a scene of American paratroopers in a plane bound for fictional San Marcos, where Fielding Mellish (Allen) has accidentally ended up as the leader of the rebels.

      Any word on where we’re heading?

      I hear it’s San Marcos.

      For or against the government?

      ClA’s not taking any chances. Some of us are for it and some of us are gonna be against it.

      So today the USA is forming a de facto alliance with Syrian dictator Assad and the Iranians to fight against insurgents supported by our other allies, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

      Slate’s Joshua Keating:

      A bit less than a year ago, it seemed extremely likely that the U.S. would drop bombs on Assad’s military. Today the U.S. is seriously considering dropping bombs on Assad’s enemies.

  26. #39 by Larry Bergan on June 26, 2014 - 9:30 pm

    In Cheney’s universe it all makes sense, even if it looks like a steaming plate of shit to those on the outside. He just needs two more terms as fake vice president and you’ll really see things start to happen.

  27. #40 by Richard Warnick on June 27, 2014 - 9:44 am

    If You Were An Iraq War Critic, You’re Probably Not Being Asked To Go On TV

    In an email to The Huffington Post, [former Senator Kent] Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat, offered two possible explanations. The first, he said, is “simply the incompetence of the media.” The second is “the shrillness of those trying desperately to rewrite history to cover their own devastating failures.”

    • #41 by Larry Bergan on June 28, 2014 - 10:02 pm

      It always used to be only war protesters that were accused of being shrill, but that was because we didn’t have any forum whatsoever.

      I think it’s telling that the people who have had the entire forum since Bush Jr’s. supreme court stole the whitehouse are being shrill.

  28. #42 by lazy larry on June 27, 2014 - 10:08 am

    When the US is destroyed all Americans can openly discuss our combined lack of vision, in the grand picture, no reference will be made to this side or that domestically..only that the American people, and America….failed..

    • #43 by cav on June 27, 2014 - 12:27 pm

      They told us they’d represent us. We listened to them. Hence, the FAILURE!

  29. #44 by lazy larry on June 27, 2014 - 6:50 pm

    How’s it feel to be a bunch of losers?

    Red team, blue team..whatever, cellar dwelling…

    Losers.

    • #45 by cav on June 28, 2014 - 9:18 am

      You mean like some knee-jerk pacifists who hate America, want it to fail, are afraid of guns, and are childish, weak, passive and effeminate?

      You win…now please back away from the Nuke.

      • #46 by Anonymous on June 29, 2014 - 11:40 pm

        That groups pathetic weakness and penchant for denying the realities around them has led directly to this situation.

        Should have fought harder sooner. Refer the Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitzhen. “We just didn’t love freedom enough”. Quite sad.

  30. #47 by Richard Warnick on June 29, 2014 - 2:51 pm

    New York Times Public Editor Criticizes Paper’s Iraq Coverage

    “On the Op-Ed pages and in the news columns, there have been very few outside voices of those who opposed the war last time, or those who reject the use of force now,” Sullivan wrote Saturday. “But the neoconservatives and interventionists are certainly being heard.”

  31. #48 by cav on June 29, 2014 - 3:41 pm

    Talk among yourselves.

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