Dr. Ben Carson Offers $2.5 Trillion Federal Deficit

Dr. Ben Carson

Brian Tashman of Right Wing Watch points out that Tea-GOP presidential front runner Dr. Ben Carson’s federal budget numbers add up to an out-of-control annual deficit.

1. Carson proposes a 10 percent flat income tax according to the biblical practice of tithing. This would raise taxes on the poorest 47 percent of Americans, tax the rich at about 1/4 the current rate, and result in an estimated $1.1 trillion in annual revenue.

2. Carson wants a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which is unlikely to pass. Such an amendment would make deficits unconstitutional. Carson also says that, as President, he would never sign legislation to raise the debt limit.

3. Carson also would impose a federal hiring freeze, and order cuts of 3 to 4 percent across federal departments, except defense.

Slate’s Jordan Weissmann points out that even if “you were to cut all federal outlays, including Medicare, Medicaid, military spending, and Social Security, by 4 percent, you would save less than $150 billion.” Weissmann also noted that a strict government hiring freeze “would only save about $50 billion over a decade.”

Here’s the arithmetic:

Subtract 4% from the current approximately $3.2 trillion in non-military spending, and you get $3.072 trillion. Add the $600 billion Pentagon budget (which does not include the cost of overseas military operations, BTW). So President Carson would spend $3.672 annually to fund the federal government. Subtract $1.1 trillion in revenues. The answer: Carson would have a $2.572 trillion annual budget deficit, which is more than 6 times the FY 2015 $426 billion deficit.

But wait a minute, he’s for a balanced budget and not adding to the National Debt.

I really hope he gets called on this nonsense in tonight’s debate.

More info:
Ben Carson’s budget plan makes absolutely no sense

  1. #1 by Richard Warnick on October 29, 2015 - 10:59 am

    During the debate, Governor John Kasich pointed out that both Carson and Trump are talking about “fantasy” budget proposals.

    Kasich slammed the party’s two front-runners, Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson early in the debate, lashing out at Carson’s tax plan, which would institute a flat tax that CNBC moderator Becky Quick pointed out would create a big deficit.

    “You just don’t make promises like this, why don’t you just give chicken in every pot while we’re coming up with these fantasy tax plans? We’ll clean it up, well where are you gonna clean it up?” Kasich fired back. “This stuff is fantasy, just like getting rid of Medicare and Medicaid.”

  2. #2 by Larry Bergan on October 29, 2015 - 2:31 pm

    I have plan of my own. It’s my TTR plan:

    Tax The Rich.

    I don’t know a whole lot about Ben Stein, but he wrote speeches for Nixon and Ford, and claims economist as one of his many talents. Made heads explode at Fox “news” in 2012. Even Bernie Sanders hasn’t said this:

    Ben Stein jokes that Fox News might kill him for telling them taxes are ‘too low’

    • #3 by Richard Warnick on October 29, 2015 - 3:34 pm

      Ben Stein is no friend of ordinary Americans, but he’s smart and in this case he’s telling the truth.

      • #4 by Larry Bergan on October 29, 2015 - 6:36 pm

        I think the telling moment in Stein’s Fox “news” appearance was when he said, “I do not want my children – my wonderful granddaughter -, to grow up in a bankrupt America”.

        Maybe Paul Ryan has an underground shelter to live in until the effects of not paying off the Bush Jr. wars kicks in for real. As for me, I’m happy to have been lucky enough to grow up in the time Stein talks about, when taxes were very high for the rich and nobody ever heard them bitching in public.

      • #5 by Larry Bergan on October 29, 2015 - 6:45 pm

        Lawmakers are always saying how great Utah’s economy is but these are scary times.

        Too many Salt Lake City renters are living on the edge, study shows

        Finance experts say rents above 30 percent of residents’ incomes force difficult day-to-day sacrifices, with burdened renters having to forgo other basics such as health care or saving for emergencies, retirement or a mortgage down payment.

        One Utah housing advocate described these renters as living on the edge of homelessness or financial disaster.

        “Once there’s a hiccup in their lives, they can’t catch up,” said Tara Rollins, executive director of the nonprofit Utah Housing Coalition, which lobbies for affordable-housing construction statewide.

        Just because people have jobs, doesn’t mean they can afford to live. Just because Utah’s wages are low and we attract businesses, doesn’t mean things are going to be OK.

        • #6 by Richard Warnick on October 30, 2015 - 8:43 am

          Have you seen this?

          GOP Candidates Avoid the “Economic Elephant” in the Living Room During CNBC Debate

          “The accelerated use by employers of the independent contractor loophole is causing a rapid erosion of the safety net for workers and families, one that was forged over many decades. Under the current system, employers actually have an incentive to fire their entire workforce if they can get away with it and dramatically reduce labor costs by using all 1099 workers. And now the apps and websites of “sharing” economy companies like Uber, Instacart, Task Rabbit, Upwork and others make it easier than ever to do. These perverse incentives are threatening to undercut the U.S. labor force and turn millions of workers into little more than day laborers.

          Sounds extreme? The pharmaceutical company Merck sold its factory in Philadelphia and the new owner fired all 400 Merck employees and rehired them as independent contractors–Merck then contracted with the company to continue making the same antibiotics for them.”

          Job security and benefits are disappearing as America moves to an Uber-ized work force.

          • #7 by Larry Bergan on October 30, 2015 - 12:46 pm

            Yeah, I’ve heard about that.

            I’m waiting for all the propaganda “think tanks” to start sending their recruits out all over the public airwaves to brand this as some new, “innovative” – I’m coming to really hate that word – way for up-and-coming young entrepreneurs to have a steady upwardly mobile job in the exciting new future.

            I’m sure they already have and it’s disgusting. 🙁

  3. #9 by Larry Bergan on November 2, 2015 - 5:22 pm

    These candidates have just about had it with all those socialist liberals at NBC’s finance channel, so they’re coming up with some ideas.

    Under pressure from the campaigns, the Republican Party has “suspended” a debate with NBC News in February.


    The campaigns will discuss Carson’s proposal, which includes “a minimum of five minutes for opening and closing statements with all major declared GOP candidates on stage.” There are currently 14 candidates that have regularly been appearing in debates. Giving them five minutes each for opening and closing statements would take 140 minutes, which is more than the total time for a typical two hour debate.

    And this gem:

    Ted Cruz has subsequently called for all future debate moderators to be registered Republicans. Cruz suggested Sean Hannity or Rush Limabugh.

    As strange as things are today, I’m not so sure CNBC didn’t purposefully ask questions which could be attributed to liberals because they don’t want the larger public to see the debates on antenna TV either. The “are you a cartoon character” question asked of Trump was a little uncharacteristic for even a cable channel to ask, in my opinion.

    • #10 by Larry Bergan on November 2, 2015 - 9:05 pm

      From one of the best journalists America has ever had, Robert Parry:

      Reviving the ‘Liberal Media’ Myth

      That CNBC would now be attacked as a bastion of the “liberal media” shows how far this myth has slid from reality. CNBC is part of NBCUniversal, which is co-owned by Comcast (51 percent), a major international media conglomerate, and General Electric (49 percent), which is a founding member of what President Dwight Eisenhower called the Military-Industrial Complex.

      So, the notion that CNBC is a hotbed of leftist journalism is delusional. But that is what the Republican Party and many of its top candidates are selling to their “base.”

      “the liberal media” myth goes back a lot further then I knew.

  4. #11 by Richard Warnick on November 4, 2015 - 2:44 pm

    Josh Marshall compares the Ben Carson campaign to the classic comedy “The Producers.”

    Is Carson For Prez A Direct Mail Scam?

  5. #12 by Richard Warnick on November 5, 2015 - 11:46 am

    Dr. Carson re-invents the concept of the food pyramid.

    Carson: ‘Secular Progressives’ Are Welcome To Ridicule Pyramid Theory

    We actually didn’t need an invitation.

  6. #13 by Richard Warnick on November 6, 2015 - 8:58 am

    Ben Carson Concedes That Details From His Biography Were ‘Fictitious’

    “Do you think I’m a pathological liar, like CNN does, or do you think I’m an honest person?” Carson said. “I’m going to leave it up to the American people to make that decision.”

    As Ben Carson Changes His Story, Doubts Surface Over His Autobiography

  7. #14 by Richard Warnick on November 6, 2015 - 2:12 pm

    Carson lied about West Point acceptance

    WASHINGTON – Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson’s campaign said on Friday he never applied nor was accepted to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, apparently contradicting an account in Carson’s autobiography that he had been offered a full scholarship by the prestigious school.

    • #15 by Larry Bergan on November 6, 2015 - 3:48 pm

      Honesty doesn’t seem to be a driving concern among hard core republican voters. In fact, it seems to be a plus, otherwise, why not just vote for the person everybody knows is honest. I hate to bring this up, but, ironically, his initials are BS. 🙂

    • #16 by Larry Bergan on November 6, 2015 - 4:08 pm



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