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Warren Zevon

Today is Day 37 of the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The Bundy Gang terrorists have created one martyr after the “suicide by cop” of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum. Four armed holdouts are still camped at the refuge, anticipating a shoot-out with law enforcement. It’s uncertain how this will end.

In an well-written article, Raw Story’s Arun Gupta dissects the problems with the FBI’s response to this terrorist incident, not the least of which is the failure to bring terrorism charges. Gupta has been covering this story from Burns, Oregon.

The lax approach for weeks at Malheur made Burns a magnet for armed militiamen who spread fear in the town. The refuge became a platform for the Bundy militia to promote its radical interpretation of the U.S. Constitution and organize their armed rebellion.

The Bundy episode also exposed how the legal framework of the “war on terror” is used primarily on racial, religious and political grounds. Anti-terrorism laws should be repealed, but it’s notable that the Bundy militia’s actions match the definition of domestic terrorism precisely: “acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State” and that “appear to be intended … to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion.”

The armed band has held the Malheur Refuge for more than a month now. The Bundys told reporters they would “kill or be killed if necessary.” They were setting up shadow governments in Eastern Oregon as a step toward overthrowing the U.S. government. Local and federal government employees were threatened. Most recently, Cliven Bundy sent the Harney County sheriff a notarized letter claiming “possession” of the refuge.

But there is no indication arrestees will be charged with domestic terrorism or that the scores of people who came by the refuge offering supplies or aid will be charged with providing material support for terrorism.

..The Bundys are also being spared the throw-the-book-at-them response prosecutors use in post-9/11 terror cases. The contrast is telling because whereas the Bundys plotted actively and openly to use violence to further political ends, the majority of terror cases are cooked up by the FBI. They trap “mentally ill or … economically desperate” Muslim-Americans who wind up with decades-long sentences. Sometimes the charges are astonishingly minor, such as a U.S.-born college student who accepted a 15-year sentence, rather than the 70 years sought by prosecutors, by saying he knew a houseguest was carrying sleeping bags and waterproof socks to an al Qaeda contact in Afghanistan. This severity also extended to Occupy Wall Street. In Cleveland and Chicago, white male anarchists received lengthy sentences after they were goaded, bribed and guided by undercover police and FBI informants to participate in fake terror plots.

The list of convicted terrorists in U.S. prisons consists mostly of Muslims, leftists, and environmentalists. There are very few right-wingers – notably Terry Nichols and Eric Rudolph.

Oregon Public Broadcasting reports that in addition to guns the Bundys are working the lawyers and money angles. The Eugene-based Arnold Law Firm now represents the terrorists, and has set up a website to collect donations for legal bills.

Over the course of the terrorist takeover, The Oregonian has done some really excellent journalism. They told the story of the Burns Paiute Tribe, who were forcibly evicted from their 1.5 million acre reservation by the U.S. Army in 1879. Unlike the Bundys, the tribe can make a good case for having suffered from government oppression.

The tribe later recovered a fraction of its former reservation, 760 acres on the outskirts of town, after agreeing to pay the federal government for the land.

The Oregonian also put the recent events in context by comparing the Bundy Gang takeover to 1970s Marxist terrorists in Oregon and a 1979 takeover of the Harris Neck National Wildlife Refuge in Georgia by dispossessed black residents.

More info:
Government inaction gave Bundy militants a platform to spread their anti-government delusions
Ethical Questions Surround Ammon Bundy’s Legal Team, Strategy
Burns Paiutes to Ammon Bundy: You’re not the victim
Oregon standoff: Feds forcibly removed black occupiers from wildlife refuge in 1979

  1. #1 by Richard Warnick on February 7, 2016 - 5:23 pm

    Terrorist holdout David Fry was able to post a video to YouTube today despite FBI efforts to pull the plug.

    He’s got another rant on YouTube against the FBI. The campsite of the four holdouts looks like a garbage dump.

    “I want the FBI to see this!”

    More here

    Camp Finicum

  2. #2 by Richard Warnick on February 8, 2016 - 8:58 am

    Refuge occupier calls for feds to leave Oregon in latest release of videos

    David Fry, 27, said that most communication to the refuge had been cut off, and that it was a “miracle” that he was able to get the video out.

    …”It’s time to take a stand, it’s time to fight, and it’s time to show these scumbags who’s really in charge of this country,” Fry said, before asking for the “patriots” of this country to “kick the feds out of the state.”

    He also asked the feds to leave Oregon voluntarily.

    “Get the hell out of Oregon, get the hell out of all the states,” Fry said. “I’m tired of you guys.”

    Feeling is mutual. I’m really tired of David Fry, and I am looking forward to watching him go to federal prison for 20 years.

  3. #3 by Richard Warnick on February 8, 2016 - 12:50 pm

    Ammon Bundy issues new statement from jail

    Ammon Bundy, the leader of the armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, continues to make his voice heard while sitting in jail on a federal conspiracy charge — his latest call urges elected officials from eight states to support his co-defendants.

    “This is a call to action for any elected representative in Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, the state of Washington and Ohio,” Bundy says. “You have constituents in federal custody. Please visit and contact them to voice your support for free speech, the right to assemble and civil disobedience.”

    Threatening to kill people to get your way isn’t “civil disobedience.” It’s terrorism, plain and simple. Why are the Bundy Gang terrorists not charged accordingly?

  4. #4 by Richard Warnick on February 8, 2016 - 3:30 pm

    Koch Organizations Connected To Bundy Outlaws

    It’s all for a cause, and not the cause of freedom. This is a big land grab on the part of Koch Industries and their allies so they can use public lands for their private enrichment. Just as it is with every other “cause for liberty” they claim to espouse, so too are they funding these rebellious, destructive, nativist groups for their own gain.

  5. #5 by Nathan Erkkila on February 8, 2016 - 10:11 pm

    If the majority of people on the list you posted are muslim, then that makes the majority of them right wing, especially with Islamic extremists.

    • #6 by Richard Warnick on February 9, 2016 - 9:58 am

      If theocratic Muslim=right wing, then you might have a point. On the other hand, although Malheur holdout David Fry claims to be an ISIS supporter, reports indicate that he was the only one among the terrorists occupying the refuge. He was kind of an outcast prior to the arrest of the Bundy Gang leadership. So its not at all clear that “Vanilla ISIS” and the real ISIS have much in common.

      Question: Do you agree that federal terrorism statutes apply to the armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge? For example, the US Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996.

      • #7 by Nathan Erkkila on February 9, 2016 - 6:52 pm

        Islam is inherently a very conservative belief system. Even if we are talking about moderates, there still tends to be a right-wing leaning with them and that can be attributed to religion.

        Also it really depends on what you define as terrorism. When someone detonates a bomb during a marathon, it’s terrorism, but when 2 teenagers go into a high school with guns and kill 14 people, it’s murder. Why is that? Even if you say that terrorism is a political attack, then that doesn’t explain why people such as Ted Kaczynski and Jared Loughner are not considered terrorists. The truth is that terrorism is a useless word. It means nothing concrete.

        • #8 by Richard Warnick on February 10, 2016 - 9:49 am

          Ted Kaczynski is considered a terrorist. He’s on the Wikipedia list I linked to in the post. He refused to enter an insanity plea.

          Loughner was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia but after treatment also did not plead insanity. He was sentenced to serve seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years in prison without parole, and pay $19 million in restitution to his victims.

          There is a very specific legal definition of terrorism on the FBI website.

          18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term “federal crime of terrorism” as an offense that:

          Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct; and
          Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930(c) (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).

          This is exactly what the Bundy Gang terrorists did. Exactly. I expect them to be charged with terrorist acts before this is over.

          If you want to associate the motives of right-wing Mormon religious fanatics to fanatical Muslims, I say go ahead and make your case.

          • #9 by Nathan Erkkila on February 10, 2016 - 3:31 pm

            The difference between murder and terrorism is non-existent to the victims. Using that word means nothing.

          • #10 by Larry Bergan on February 10, 2016 - 8:32 pm

            Nathan has a point. the terrorism word has been thrown all around the place to the extent that even unarmed environmentalists have been included and targeted more then most.

            Do you have sympathy with the anti-taxers Nathan?

          • #11 by Richard Warnick on February 10, 2016 - 11:27 pm

            I use the term “terrorism” according to the definition on the FBI website. Which begs the question why no one from the Bundy Gang has been charged under anti-terrorism statutes.

            Play Safe

          • #12 by Larry Bergan on February 11, 2016 - 11:18 am

            Bought a hoodie at Ross. Keeps me warm. Don’t feel threatened. White as shit. 😀

  6. #13 by Richard Warnick on February 9, 2016 - 10:23 am

    David Fry is posting more videos on YouTube, still hoping somebody will come and rescue him and the three other Malheur terrorist holdouts now facing arrest and long prison terms. The Pacific Patriots Network “tucked tail and ran,” according to Fry.

    Apparently the FBI did not cut off his Internet access. They did lose cell phone service, except for a flip phone the FBI gave them. Fry complains on the video that you can’t even use it browse the Web. Some are speculating that Fry is getting on the Internet with a different phone he found at the refuge.

  7. #14 by Richard Warnick on February 9, 2016 - 11:11 am

    Occupier David Fry manages to get call through to friend’s voicemail, says lies and disinfo spreading, sets record straight

    “We are not threatening people coming to this place. We’ve never talked to PPN [Pacific Patriots Network]–we have never made a conversation with PPN–they never did contact us. So them making up lies about us […] telling everybody to stand down after they’ve had communication with us–that’s an absolute lie. PPN is compromised […].”

  8. #19 by Richard Warnick on February 10, 2016 - 11:28 pm

    Oregon standoff: FBI moves in on last refuge occupiers

    Apparently FBI tactical teams re-occupied buildings at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters late on Tuesday, undetected by the four remaining terrorists camped in a nearby parking lot. Today at 4:30 pm, one of the terrorists was spotted riding a Fish & Wildlife Service ATV – when the FBI approached, he retreated back to the encampment. Then the FBI moved in with five tactical vehicles and closely surrounded the holdouts. Much drama ensued on an hours-long phone call live-streamed to the Web (summarized in the article).

  9. #20 by Richard Warnick on February 10, 2016 - 11:37 pm

    Occupiers Say They Will Surrender To FBI Thursday

    Occupier Sean Anderson said the four will set their weapons aside and turn themselves in at 8 a.m. [Pacific Time]

    The possible resolution to the 40-day occupation came after a night of often tense negotiations between militants, the FBI, Nevada state Rep. Michele Fiore and others.

    The conference call was streamed live online by Gaven Seim, a media personality who frequently posts videos in support of the occupation.

    Live Updates from Oregon Public Broadcasting

  10. #21 by Richard Warnick on February 10, 2016 - 11:51 pm

    More articles:

    FBI surrounds remaining Malheur insurgents as occupiers panic on live feed

    The militants have said they won’t leave until Fiore and the Rev. Franklin Graham, who they’ve asked to negotiate on their behalf, arrive and walk out with them.

    They’ve also said they won’t leave unless they can take their guns and avoid arrest — but federal authorities have said they’re not willing to negotiate.

    “The world is listening,” an agent can be heard saying over a megaphone. “It’s time to come out and tell your story.”

    Seriously? How about “It’s time to go to federal prison and never be heard from again!”

    FBI Surrounds Occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge

    Sean Anderson: “I’m done talking, I’m done praying… they’re gonna have to fucking kill us.”

    Careful what you wish for!

    From the comments:

    Summary: The four holdouts are very deluded, and now rather panicky as of tonight. During the live call to that internet radio show, there wasn’t much sign of Fry or Banta at all, mostly Sandy and Sean Anderson, the married couple. At times, Sean seemed almost to grasp the reality of their situation, but it just made him angry to know he’s probably going to end up in jail for a long time. He’s especially angry that the FBI has told them the time for compromises is over and that they are not going to allow Nevada Assemblywoman Michelle Fiore or Rev. Frank Graham or anyone else into the compound. If I had to guess, he’s desperate for something to show he has power over the Feds, however minor, and the FBI negotiators simply aren’t willing to give him that…probably because they (the Feds) already know that any concession will just bring more unreasonable demands, including the most common one, which was for all the current arrestees (Bundy, et al) to be freed and pardoned of all crimes, and to be allowed to go back to their armed occupation of the federal wildlife sanctuary. Which ain’t ever gonna happen.

    BREAKING: FBI Moves In To End Oregon Standoff

    FBI Tightens Grip On Final Occupiers At Oregon Wildlife Refuge

    David Fry

  11. #22 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 3:49 am

    FBI: Cliven Bundy Arrested

    Cliven Bundy was taken into federal custody on the evening of Wednesday, February 10, 2016, in Portland. Further information on the charges is expected to be available on Thursday morning.

    Wow, finally. This guy represents the epitome of white privilege.

    BUSTED: Rancher and right-wing tax-dodging darling Cliven Bundy arrested in Oregon

    Cliven Bundy was arrested late Wednesday night at the Portland International Airport for “federal charges related to the 2014 standoff at his ranch” in Nevada, according to a report in The Oregonian.

    Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy arrested by FBI in Portland

    Bundy, 74, was booked into the downtown Multnomah County jail at 10:54 p.m.

    He faces a conspiracy charge to interfere with a federal officer — the same charge lodged against two of his sons, Ammon and Ryan, for their role in the Jan. 2 takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns. He also faces weapons charges.

    The Bundy Ranch Facebook page reported Cliven Bundy was surrounded by SWAT officers and detained after his arrival from Nevada.

    Cliven Bundy mug shot
    Cliven Bundy mug shot

  12. #24 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 8:54 am

    BREAKING: Live feed of Malheur terrorist surrender to FBI.

    Getting ready to surrender now. Nevada state assemblywoman Michelle Fiore and Franklin Graham are at the Burns airport with the FBI.

    Report from the terrorists: They have snacks! Sean Anderson: “Some people think we are fruitcakes, but I’m tellin ya we are witnesses… to the Lord.”

    Michelle: “Me and the Reverend are going to drive in together.”

  13. #25 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 9:15 am

    Live blogging

    Sean Anderson says their campsite is surrounded with FBI MRAPs that came in closer during the night. He says all four of the holdouts are now unarmed.

  14. #26 by Larry Bergan on February 11, 2016 - 9:20 am

    Oregon Standoff Concludes? ‘We’re Not Surrendering, We’re Turning Ourselves In’

    We’re Not Surrendering. we’re surrendering.

    The brave, the proud, the Cowards.

    Don’t look; turn away. 😀

  15. #27 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 9:29 am

    Live blogging

    Sean Anderson is referencing his video tirade when he told so-called “militia” to kill the police. Says he was let down when they didn’t come to his rescue.

    Michelle Fiore just said that not only Cliven Bundy but Blaine Cooper has been arrested. “They are arresting people one by one.”

    • #28 by Larry Bergan on February 11, 2016 - 9:48 am

      Arresting peaceful protesters with guns seems rational, somehow. 😀

  16. #29 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 9:33 am

    Live blogging

    KGW reporter says media will not be allowed to show the surrender on TV. The cameras are at the outer checkpoint.


  17. #30 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 9:43 am

    Live blogging

    Victoria Sharp came on the conference call. She says the FBI is “circling” her, wherever she is. Sang a song, which was impossible to understand on the phone. [Sharp was with Robert “LaVoy” Finicum when he ran a police roadblock and got shot].

    Franklin Graham on the line with Michelle Fiore. Graham tells Sean Anderson “we’re proud of ya and we love ya.” Says a prayer. “Will be face to face in just a few moments.”

    Sean Anderson says he will be unarmed and carrying a flag.

  18. #31 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 9:46 am

    Live blogging

    Michelle Fiore says she and Graham will be changing vehicles at the checkpoint to an armored vehicle. She will leave the live feed when that happens.

    Helicopter coming in now in case a medevac is needed.

    Fiore is on the road: “I see some cows, lots of cows… and a tractor.”

  19. #32 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 10:20 am

    Live blogging

    Ammon Bundy’s lawyer being interviewed at checkpoint

    Surrender has still not happened. Waiting.

  20. #33 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 10:30 am


    KGW reporter at checkpoint.

  21. #34 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 10:41 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry talking now on livestream. They are walking to the FBI with hands up, Sean Anderson carrying American flag. “They have guns pointed at us.”

    Sean, his wife, and the other guy have surrendered.

  22. #35 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 10:46 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry waiting to be arrested. “Lighting a cigarette.” Yelling at the FBI now: “UNLESS MY GRIEVANCES ARE HEARD, I WILL NOT COME OUT!!”

    “I didn’t agree to any of this, really. I’m kind of worried they will just ignore us.”

    “I’m feeling suicidal right now… I will die a free man.”


    “This is my fort. This is my fort. How come they won’t call me?”

  23. #36 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 10:53 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry: “I want to stay here. If they attack me, I have to defend myself. They haven’t even promised me any of my grievances against the government. They’re trampling on my First Amendment rights.”

    “As a citizen of the Constitution, I declare war against the federal government right now.”

    “There is no way to beat this anymore.. Liberty or death!”

    Fry says his grievance is he doesn’t want to pay taxes anymore. He thinks that his taxes are going to fund abortion. If he gets life in prison, that won’t be a problem.

  24. #37 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 10:59 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry: “I’m not going to gamble my life and be raped in prison.”

    [Fry is terrified of being raped in prison, as he has said numerous times].

    He is still refusing to come out and surrender.

    “Find a way to get these people off my back… they’re freaking me out.”

    “I’m taking my stand. This is not something I’m going to back away from. That’s what a man does. A stand means you’re willing to risk your life.”

  25. #38 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 11:08 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry still ranting…

    “I should be able to opt out of certain taxes… I’ve got to find a way to keep from paying for these atrocities.”

    “Christ died at 33.”

    “The tree of liberty has to be watered with the blood of patriots.”

    “Death is not scary.. they can’t kill every citizen off.”

  26. #39 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 11:12 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry getting more and more irrational and suicidal.

    “I’m making my stand… will not pay for health insurance, or abortion or the murder of millions in the Middle East.”

    Citing the Quran now. Babbling incoherently.

    “They need to address my grievances…. Even if I go to prison they need to promise me absolute protection.”

    “If I go to prison I should get protection just like rich people get special privileges.”

    “If I go to prison, I’m afraid I’ll get raped.”

    He’s talking to FBI now. Refusing to come out.

    “I can’t come out, guys. I can’t do it.”

  27. #40 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 11:17 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry: “I better get a pizza.”

    “I’m actually pointing a gun at my head right now. I am tired of living.”

    “I need promised protection.”

    “I’m tired, everybody.”

    “I think they’re coming in.”

    Fry is getting mocked on Twitter: “Give me pizza or give me death!”

  28. #41 by Larry Bergan on February 11, 2016 - 11:22 am

    Slow death or death by cop. Easiest decision ever! Pull it out! Be a hero! 🙂

  29. #42 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 11:24 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry: “I’ll really confused right now. You guys haven’t addressed any of my grievances.”

    Giving an incoherent speech about “my life, my country, my soul.”

    “This is the problem. American Christians don’t listen to their God.”

    “All I needed was my marijuana. You wouldn’t even let me have my marijuana!”

    Ranting about not being able to find a job in Oregon.

    “They called me an ISIS lover.”

    “I don’t want to stay any more. I want to go. I want to go home.”

  30. #44 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 11:30 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry: “I don’t care about the movement any more… if you guys had been here LaVoy will still be alive.”

    Ranting about lack of support from fellow right-wingers..

    “After 9/11 we had plenty of time to look into it…”

    “I used my cell phone to research… instead of watching football, I did my research.”

    Wants to die like Christ.

  31. #45 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 11:34 am

    Live blogging

    David Fry says he is laying down in bed. “I’m enjoying my blanket.”

    “Why are you guys saying I gotta move?”

    “They’re altering the DNA. Voting doesn’t work. It’s corrupt.”

    Talking to an FBI agent. “I don’t feel safe coming out… I don’t want to be put behind bars, I don’t want to take that risk.”

    “If you honestly cared about me, you would fix these grievances right now.”

    Threatening to kill himself rather than “cower in the face of evil.”

    “I’m not that easily scared. I’m willing to die.” Upset about people paying taxes for “atrocities” such as killing children with drone strikes.

    “I’m defending my base…” Ranting wildly now.

    “What’s that noise… hope it’s just the wind. Hope you guys aren’t trying to attack me.”

    “I feel like my life is threatened right now, and it is.”

    “As long as nobody attacks, or tries to come in here, then nobody is going to get hurt.. I’d rather not go to prison. …I’ll kill myself.”

    “Back away. Give me some room, more days to think about it. You’re not addressing any of my grievances.”

  32. #46 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 11:47 am

    Live blogging

    Ranting about aliens and UFOs now. Totally insane. “Look how stupid the American people are. I’m going to say it: UFOs are real, alien stuff is real… The Secret Inventions Act of 1951…. we should be depending on solar now instead of oil.”

    Says he is trying to expose government secrets while “you people are watching football.”

    He was supposed to surrender almost three hours ago.

    Fry talking to FBI:

    “Are you guys Obama lovers now? Everybody needs to understand that Obama is a traitor, if you acknowledge him as commander-in-chief then you can’t do your oath.”

    “I should have called one of those Muslim clerics. I want a chance to talk to a real Muslim cleric.”

    Complaining now about the situation in Syria, to the FBI negotiators.

    Now complaining about “chemical agents mutating people” and saying that nuclear plants “need to be fixed.”

    “If everybody says ‘hallelujah’ I’ll come out.”

    “They’re saying ‘hallelujah.’ I’m walking towards them right now.”

    FBI: “Put your hands behind your back.”

    Fry is being cuffed. The live feed from his phone ended.

  33. #47 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 1:21 pm

    ‘The healing will take a lot of time’: Kate Brown grateful for peaceful end to occupation

    “The challenge is really moving forward,” Brown said, adding “The healing will take a lot of time. And I think that is our first mission, to support the Harney County community as they heal and to give them the resources and the tools they need to recover.”

    She also said the Burns Paiute tribe members who count the Malheur refuge as their ancestral land remain pained by the occupation, which Brown called “extremely devastating to them.”

  34. #48 by Richard Warnick on February 11, 2016 - 2:13 pm

    FBI statement on end of Oregon standoff

    At approximately 9:40 am on Thursday, February 11, 2016, the FBI brought three of the remaining Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupiers into custody without incident. At approximately 11:00 am, agents brought the fourth into custody without incident.

    * Sean Larry Anderson, age 47, of Riggins, Idaho
    * Sandra Lynn Anderson, age 48, of Riggins, Idaho
    * Jeff Wayne Banta, age 46, of Yerington, Nevada
    * David Lee Fry, age 27, of Blanchester, Ohio

    No one was injured, and no shots were fired. Thursday marks day 41 of the occupation of the refuge.

  35. #51 by Richard Warnick on February 13, 2016 - 1:27 pm

    Final four holdouts in refuge takeover make first federal court appearance.

    Final four mug shots

    Sandy Anderson, 48, is from Riggins, Idaho.
    Sean Anderson, 47, is from Riggins, Idaho.
    Jeff Banta, 46, is from Elko, Nevada.
    David Fry, 27, is from Blanchester, Ohio.

    Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore commented:

    “I truly believe the refuge and the people who stood on the refuge today are prisoners because they exercised their right to political free speech,” she said.

    …”We’re talking about a bunch of cowboys camping in the middle of nowhere.”

    • #52 by Larry Bergan on February 13, 2016 - 10:18 pm

      Wouldn’t you love to hear Clint Eastwood’s opinion. 🙂

  36. #53 by Richard Warnick on February 14, 2016 - 11:55 am

    FBI Begins Processing Malheur Refuge Crime Scene

    The massive crime scene needs to be cleared of hazards before evidence teams, including the FBI’s Art Crime Team, can begin working. The refuge, which was occupied for 41 days, is expected to be closed to the public for quite some time.

  37. #55 by Richard Warnick on February 15, 2016 - 6:11 pm

    How good government made fools of Cliven Bundy and his self-styled revolutionaries

    [T]he standoff didn’t go according to plan for the Bundys, their grassroots followers or their benefactors in the energy, mining and lumber businesses. In the end, good governance made them look foolish.

    …In the final hours, as negotiators talked the last few holdouts into surrendering on a live-streamed telephone call, only someone deeply indoctrinated in anti-government ideology could fail to see the FBI as calm and professional, while the occupiers displayed clinical levels of paranoia. The last four militants were convinced that they would be cut down in a hail of gunfire the moment they stepped outside the door, but it was clear that all they had to do to avoid harm was leave their weapons behind and walk out, which is what ultimately happened.

  38. #56 by Richard Warnick on February 16, 2016 - 1:36 pm

  39. #57 by Richard Warnick on February 17, 2016 - 11:21 am

    FBI: Oregon Occupiers Left Behind A Huge Amount Of Poop Near Tribal Site

    The FBI has found “a trench of human feces” on or near a Native American burial ground at the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon that armed militia members had occupied for more than a month, Reuters reported Wednesday.

  40. #58 by Richard Warnick on February 18, 2016 - 8:52 am

    New Federal Indictment Slaps Bundy Gang With 16 Felony Charges – Each

    These charges are for threatening federal officers in Nevada in 2014. We can expect additional charges for terrorist acts and destruction at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

  41. #59 by Richard Warnick on February 18, 2016 - 10:03 am

    Shawna Cox sues government for $666 billion.

    Cox claims she was a victim of public corruption and government oppression.

    Indicted Oregon Occupier Wants $666 Billion From Govt … Get It? 666!

    In her complaint, Cox claims that because it was mid-winter, she and others who took over the government wildlife preserve, were not interfering “with any public employees working on the Malheur.”

    “In fact we encouraged them to come to work as we wanted to discuss
    the ownership problem with them and get as much information we could from them,” the complaint says. “If anything, it was their choice to not come to work, out of guilt. The evidence will show that maintenance individuals came to conduct routine maintenance on the Malheur while we were there, and we helped them conduct their maintenance duties. I never knowingly or intentionally broke any laws.”
    Cox’s claim goes on to actually charge the government with wrongdoing.

    “Evidence will show that federal employees were determined to secretly extend the boundaries of the Malheur. The individuals who we allegedly interfered with were directly involved in subversive activities to secretly extend the boundaries of the Malheur, and take taxpayers (ranchers) lives, liberties and properties,” the complaint says.

    Cox says that she has “suffered damages from the works of the devil in excess of six hundred sixty six billion, six hundred sixty six million, six hundred sixty six thousand, six hundred sixty six dollars and sixty six cents.”

    According to Cox, the Malheur terrorists were attempting to acquire ownership of the national wildlife refuge using the common law doctrine of “hostile adverse possession.” Which would be a joke if she had a sense of humor – but I don’t think that’s possible.

  42. #60 by Larry Bergan on February 18, 2016 - 2:52 pm

    I hope somebody is tending to Cliven’s cattle. They didn’t have anything to do with this.

    • #61 by Richard Warnick on February 18, 2016 - 4:09 pm

      The government’s case against Cliven points out that nobody ever tends the 1,000 or so Bundy cattle. They roam as wild animals on our public lands as far as 50 miles from his 160-acre ranch, causing ecological havoc and destroying desert tortoise habitat.

      While Bundy claims he is a cattle rancher, his ranching operation – to the extent it can be called that – is unconventional if not bizarre. Rather than manage and control his cattle, he lets them run wild on the public lands with little, if any, human interaction until such time when he traps them and hauls them off to be sold or slaughtered for his own consumption. He does not vaccinate or treat his cattle for disease; does not employ cowboys to control and herd them; does not manage or control breeding; has no knowledge of where all the cattle are located at any given time; rarely brands them before he captures them; and has to bait them into traps in order to gather them.

  43. #62 by Richard Warnick on February 18, 2016 - 4:54 pm

    Here’s a link to the “crimminal counter suite” filed by Shawna Cox for $666,666,666,666.66. “We took Hostile Adverse Possession of the Mahler [sic] Wildlife Refuge,” she says.

  44. #63 by Richard Warnick on February 20, 2016 - 6:50 pm

    A couple of thoughtful articles about the 41-day Malheur NWR occupation and its outcome.

    High Country News: Can we make sense of the Malheur mess?

    Raw Story: What it was like to spend five weeks embedded with the Bundy militants in Oregon

    University of Oregon geography professor Peter Walker has just returned from Harney County, Oregon, where armed occupiers took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

    • #64 by Larry Bergan on February 21, 2016 - 11:04 pm

      I’ve read the first article. Very nice layout of the situation.

  45. #65 by Richard Warnick on February 22, 2016 - 8:44 am

    Federal prosecutors signal potential for new indictment, more defendants in refuge takeover case

    In March, federal prosecutors expect to file another indictment against the alleged conspirators in the armed takeover of a federal wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon that may add new charges and additional defendants.

  46. #66 by Richard Warnick on February 23, 2016 - 8:48 am

    Pete Santilli urges court to reopen, review his detention in Malheur refuge conspiracy case

    “He stands today an innocent man who did nothing more than exercise his First Amendment rights, and he received no warning that his exercise of those rights was considered unlawful by law enforcement,” wrote his court-appointed lawyer Thomas Coan. “The court should find that due process requires Santilli’s pretrial release.”

    …On Feb. 4, Mosman affirmed a magistrate judge’s decision to detain Santilli pending trial, saying he was disturbed by several remarks Santilli made during his online broadcasts promising to shoot federal officers if they came to take him or his guns away.

    “There’s a handful of statements I can’t discount as just shock-jock” bravado, Mosman said.

    He said he couldn’t ignore what seems to be Santilli’s “deeply-held beliefs” regarding his distaste for federal law enforcement and found Santilli could be “a real threat to pretrial service officers or U.S. marshals or others who have to deal with him.”

  47. #67 by Richard Warnick on February 24, 2016 - 9:26 am

    FBI done processing evidence at Malheur refuge, prosecutors say

    $3.3 million and counting: The cost of the Malheur occupation

    Even the local food pantry took a hit, because out-of-state militia members showed up asking for free snacks!

  48. #68 by Richard Warnick on February 25, 2016 - 4:17 pm

    Malheur Invaders Mooched At Local Senior Center Food Bank

    Sean Bean
    They ought to have listened to Sean Bean.

  49. #69 by Richard Warnick on March 3, 2016 - 10:51 am

    The FBI isn’t done yet—a Tea Party activist and another Bundy have just been arrested From Bundy Ranch Facebook:

    URGENT: Davey Bundy has just been arrested by the FBI in Millard County Utah in an operation of about 20 FBI vehicles. UPDATE: It looks like he is being taken to Salt Lake.

    The Millard County Sheriff was called and dispatch confirmed that he was arrested in the County and that the sheriff knew but was not on site, that the FBI does not need Sheriff permission to operate in the County.

    Trump Campaign Official Arrested On Federal Charges Linked To Bundy Ranch

    FBI agents arrested Jerry DeLemus, co-chair of Veterans for Trump in New Hampshire, on Thursday following his indictment in connection with the 2014 Bundy Ranch standoff in Nevada,…

  50. #70 by Richard Warnick on March 4, 2016 - 2:04 pm

    Ammon Bundy says jail ‘most difficult thing I’ve ever done’

    He hung his head and talked softly when he described how hard it is being away from his wife and children.

    “We are in here locked away and our families are trying to survive, and they’re struggling out there especially when we were the primary breadwinners,” he said. “My babies are at home. My beautiful wife is at home. Everything is at risk right now for us, as far as our income, our house. But we have to ask ourselves – was it worth it? I believe it was.”

    • #71 by Larry Bergan on March 4, 2016 - 5:30 pm

      I don’t get it.

      What was worth it, being a dumbass and putting an entire town in danger so rich people could buy our land?

  51. #72 by Richard Warnick on March 8, 2016 - 2:44 pm

    New video shot by Shawna Cox, a passenger in Robert “LaVoy” Finicum’s vehicle: “You’re going to have to shoot me!”

  52. #73 by Richard Warnick on March 26, 2016 - 1:50 pm

    Photos Of Damage Caused By Oregon Occupiers Proves They Aren’t Fit To Manage Anything

    Photos posted online by the United States Fish and Wildlife Service earlier this week give a peek into how the occupiers would, apparently, prefer to manage public lands, given the chance to do it themselves:

    The total cost of the occupation stands at about $6 million to the federal government, in addition to $3 million already pitched in by the state of Oregon. Of that, said Jason Holm, Assistant Regional Director of USFWS, $1.7 million has been flagged just for repairs and cleaning of the reserve itself.

    Holm warned the nearly $2 million cleanup cost is a “moving figure” subject to change as the agency conducts a thorough inventory of what’s broken and missing.

    …On a tour Wednesday, members of the media were reportedly told to be mindful of where they stepped. After a pipe burst, militia members defecated “everywhere,” officials told Oregon’s KOIN 6 News.

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