Utah supports Hillary over Trump? I’ll believe it when I see it.

Over the weekend, one of the biggest pieces of news was a poll that found  both Hillary and Bernie would beat Trump in UTAH, if Trump were the Republican nominee.


It’s worth noting that the same poll showed a comfortable victory in Utah for either Cruz or Kasich. IOW, at least according to this one poll, a Trump nomination has the potential to scramble the electoral map.  If Trump puts Utah into play, then a Trump nomination has the potential to make Goldwater’s 1964 loss look like a pleasant walk in the park.

All that said, I will believe that Utah would vote Democratic against Trump when I see it.

The nearest analogy I can find is 1992 when George HW Bush came in first, Perot second and Clinton third. If (and I think this is likely) there’s a three way contest, whoever the Republican establishment puts up against Trump will win in Utah.

  1. #1 by Larry Bergan on March 21, 2016 - 4:53 pm

    Sanders was citing that poll at his rally in Arizona. Pretty amazing.

    Cruz supporters probably still think Mormons have tails, but whatever. For Cruz to show a Ten Commandments monument on his ads tells me this is one crazy guy. Yeah, let’s bring the Old Testament God into government. Perfect.

  2. #2 by Richard Warnick on March 21, 2016 - 5:02 pm

    I was going to write about this but you beat me to it. I always say Utah isn’t a swing state. Maybe this year will be different?

    Why Utah Mormons’ distaste for Trump could turn a red state reluctantly blue

    Utah hasn’t voted for a Democratic candidate for president in a general election since President Lyndon Johnson in 1964. According to the poll, Hillary might edge out Trump 38 to 36 percent. BERNIE would clobber Trump 48 percent to 37 percent.

  3. #3 by Larry Bergan on March 21, 2016 - 9:37 pm

    The reason I’ve been getting all these years, as to why Republicans always dominate, is that Utah saw the Democrats as corrupt.

    Well, if corruption is the tipping point. IT’S ABOUT TIME for a change.

    Sanders’s ads are so positive. I love them.

    • #4 by Richard Warnick on March 22, 2016 - 9:07 am

      Democrats are unpopular statewide in Utah because they are seen as the party of gay rights and abortion. And maybe guns have something to do with it too.

      • #5 by Glenden Brown on March 22, 2016 - 9:34 am

        Richard – I’m reminded that far too many Utahns literally do not know what the Democratic party stands for every time I read the comments section in the local papers. There is a disconnect between reality and what many Utahns believe the Democratic party believes.

  4. #6 by Richard Warnick on March 22, 2016 - 9:03 am

    AIPAC would not let Bernie address them via video, as past Tea-GOP candidates have done. Netanyahu gave a speech on a satellite link this year. The HuffPo article says he “declined” but this is not accurate.

    Bernie Sanders Delivered A Killer AIPAC Speech … In Utah

    The senator implicitly criticized AIPAC for lobbying against the Iran nuclear agreement last year.

    “I do not accept the idea that the pro-Israel position was to oppose the deal,” he said. “Preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon will strengthen not only America’s security, but Israel’s security as well.”

    In yet another line that presidential candidates don’t tend to take before the AIPAC crowd, Sanders called on Israel to end “disproportionate responses” to attacks…

    • #7 by Larry Bergan on March 22, 2016 - 12:44 pm

      [Sanders] argued that new settlement construction ultimately undermines Israeli security and predicted that Israel would have to pull back settlements in the West Bank, “just as it did in Gaza.”

      I would bet he’s right. He has an astounding record of getting things right. I guess that’s why he can’t be our president. I’m surely hoping Utah is going to look good after the caucuses tonight.

      They had a man on the street interview with a lifelong republican that said he was voting for Sanders. When he got asked why, he didn’t say it was because he couldn’t stand any of the other candidates, he said Sanders is right!

      • #8 by Nathan Erkkila on March 22, 2016 - 10:54 pm

        As it stands, Utah is looking pretty damn good on the world stage tonight.

        • #9 by Larry Bergan on March 23, 2016 - 12:06 am

          I was sure thinking that!

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