White Christian America’s Weird Embrace of Donald Trump

I’m not sure I agree with everything in this article, but there’s some good stuff here. The central insight seems to be that the traditional, protestant America defined itself by race and exclusion of non-protestants and that version of America is gone.  Trump is promising to restore it.

Jones’s book convinced me that white Christian America didn’t just die a natural death, thanks to demographic change; it is committing suicide, by clinging to that seductive yet toxic modifier “white.” It would seem that Donald Trump is helping it along, as it trades adherence to its supposed moral values for nostalgia about an age that many Christians now believe was immoral in its cruelty and inequality. Still, as they fade into the past, these embattled Americans can still endanger our emerging multi-religious, multiracial communities. If Trump loses, as most polls indicate he will, it’s hard to imagine them admitting they’re wrong and trying to join the rest of the country. But if God works in mysterious ways, maybe that’s still possible.

  1. #1 by Richard Warnick on July 14, 2016 - 12:39 pm

    Where are the polls indicating Trump will lose the election? Most polls, including battleground states, have him tied with Hillary or ahead. He’s leading with independents.

    2016 is shaping up as the worst election of my lifetime. Both major-party presumptive nominees are not just bad candidates, they are off-the-charts horrible. The vote may be close as the electorate struggles to determine who is the “lesser evil.”

  2. #2 by Glenden Brown on July 14, 2016 - 1:03 pm


    Money quote:

    “The results run in contrast to the preponderance of national polls, which show Clinton ahead by roughly 5 percentage points, on average. And some of the other polls released today weren’t as bad for Clinton. Some were even good for her, in fact. A Monmouth University poll showed her up by 13 percentage points in Colorado, while Fox News had her up by 9 points there. And a Marist College poll, contradicting Quinnipiac, had her up 8 points in Pennsylvania.

    Nonetheless, the bevy of state polls today worked strongly to Trump’s benefit overall. His chances of winning the Electoral College are up to 29 percent, from 23 percent on Tuesday, according to our polls-only model. And they’re now 33 percent, up from 27 percent, in our polls-plus model, which also accounts for economic conditions. FiveThirtyEight’s forecasts are generally conservative until late in the race, so those qualify as fairly big changes by our standards.”

    The last two weeks have seen a lot of negative press for Hillary (more so than usual).

    FWIW, I can’t think of a single Democratic office holder who is not going to campaign for her. Barack and MIchelle Obama are going to campaign for her. Joe Biden is going to campaign for her. Bill Clinton is going to campaign for her. Elizabeth Warren is going to campaign for her. Bernie Sanders is going to campaign for her. I also think we need to look at the underlying fundamentals. Even with the race tightening, Clinton is still heavily favored; the safe D states give her an advantage in the electoral college.

  3. #3 by Glenden Brown on July 14, 2016 - 1:12 pm

    Then there’s this from DKos:

    Latino voters favor Clinton over Trump by a whopping 74-16 percent, according to Latino Decisions. Meanwhile, a new GenForward poll of 18 to 30 year olds found that Trump is “wildly unpopular” with young voters. Though Clinton leads Trump with these voters 38-17 percent, 22 percent still prefer “someone else” and 16 percent are contemplating not voting. So getting them to the polls may be Clinton’s key challenge. And in terms of black voters, polls uniformly show Trump sucking wind, but nowhere more so than in Pennsylvania and Ohio, where the NBC/Marist poll finds him getting ZERO percent of the black vote. That’s a striking result for any poll.

  4. #4 by Richard Warnick on July 14, 2016 - 7:41 pm

    I have read that the vast majority of Trump and Hillary supporters are strongly committed to their candidates, which means if the polls change it will have to be the result of independents.

    538, DKos, MSNBC etc. are all in for Hillary. This week Rachel Maddow was spinning a theory about Trump not doing as well as Romney among college-educated whites. She was slicing the bologna to avoid talking about Hillary sinking in the polls.

    We said all along that if the Dems nominate Hillary they are taking a big risk because she is so unpopular. Not to mention the risk to our national well-being if she wins in November.

    The corporate media are all over Trump for being a phony candidate running what amounts to a phony campaign. But they can’t explain why Hillary isn’t way ahead.

  5. #5 by Larry Bergan on July 14, 2016 - 11:18 pm

    We need somebody who is so popular that he/she will overwhelm the voting machines. That is our sad truth in America and it will not change by November 7th. The establishment is comfortable enough to let Trump or Hillary win.

    Empire will win and America will be naked in front of the world if the super delegate Democrats don’t wake the crap up and put in an honest and popular candidate!

  6. #6 by Larry Bergan on July 14, 2016 - 11:24 pm

    Trust your own eyes people:

  7. #7 by Odell Moresi on August 20, 2016 - 7:27 pm

    Interesting points. However, the main thing mainstream majority churches need to ask is why younger people of all demographics simply don t find them that appealing. Perhaps the youth of America need to show the mainstream majority churches this article so that they know why.

  8. #8 by Mostly farce on August 21, 2016 - 4:39 pm

    What the church needs to ask itself is why after 4000 friggen years they are still worshiping a self evident serial murderer from all the tales of their bible told..

    Nobody with any brains is believing in monsters under the bed, nor are they going to believe in a serial murderer as a “loving god”. It’s a killer, and that includes women and children..not just once..but over and over and over again…it is frankly a disgusting and terrible facet of humankind that demands rebuke and condemnation.

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