Mike Weinholtz Versus Governor Herbert In Televised Debate


This second debate took place on September 26th, and will most likely be the last one, as governor Herbert would rather keep his governmental matters close to the vest and probably only showed up to the first one at the last minute because he didn’t want to be called, “Unavailable Jones” at that event.

Weinholtz came out swinging like a real democrat should with the problems the GOP has left us in this state and the rest of the country as well, but he has already proven he can work with the other side on the issues.

I hope all those people who showed up to wait in line for hours to register and vote for Bernie Sanders will see that this is the year to get democrats in office again in Utah. The governor’s office has never been in Republican hands for this long in Utah before, (32 years). It’s time for a change with REAL values instead of the stagnant cronyism we see today.

Short post-debate question and answer session:

The first debate was not televised, so I took this from a citizens cell phone recording.

NOTE: You can stop the unwanted soundtrack by going near the bottom of the page, and pausing the video, or going to the comments section.

  1. #1 by Richard Warnick on October 1, 2016 - 12:29 pm

    Yesterday I got not one but two postcards from the Weinholtz campaign lambasting Gov. Herbert’s land grab agenda as an attack on our way of life, which depends on public lands. Weinholtz had my vote anyway, but it’s great that he understands how unpopular it is to associate with the Bundy Gang ideology. That’s a political opening that could be exploited a lot more.

    • #2 by Larry Bergan on October 1, 2016 - 7:11 pm

      Yeah, Weinholtz hasn’t backed off from right out saying Herbert is trying to sell our lands. Herbert laughs, like it’s a joke, but MIke hasn’t relented one bit.

      • #3 by Richard Warnick on October 1, 2016 - 7:34 pm

        Herbert’s land grab attempt is totally a joke, but not the funny kind. Instead of making progress on public lands, we are being forced to fight against the rollback of a hundred years of settled law and policy.

        • #4 by Larry Bergan on October 2, 2016 - 1:33 am

          Herbert alludes the “Sagebrush Rebellion” has been going on under Utah Democrat governors just as much as Republicans. I would say that 32 plus years ago, public awareness of the importance of saving our lands was just in it’s infancy.

          Is he right about the evil federal government not letting us save the trees by spraying for a beetle Richard?

          • #5 by Richard Warnick on October 2, 2016 - 10:45 am

            Gov. Herbert’s land grab plan is unprecedented. Utah’s last Dem governor was Scott Matheson, who proposed Project BOLD to exchange scattered state sections of land for blocks of federal land with valuable resources. The difference was conservationists supported Project BOLD because it helped wilderness preservation efforts. Project BOLD would not have reduced the total acreage of public land in Utah. Certainly Gov. Matheson never talked about abolishing national forests or national monuments.

            OK, bark beetles. Fire suppression (which results in large contiguous even-aged tree stands), drought and warmer winters (can you say “climate change”?) have contributed to a west-wide outbreak of various types of bark beetles.

            Individual trees can be protected by soaking the bark with insecticides or pheromones that kill or repel beetles. This has to be done on the ground by trained professionals, at great expense. The chemicals have to be re-applied often. The method is only practical for small areas like campgrounds and backyards.

            Nobody is going to protect billions of trees by spraying. Fungal treatments may work better, but so far only can be used on one species, the mountain pine beetle. Because the State of Utah wants to take over all our national forests, somebody ought to ask Gov. Herbert where he expects to get the funding to spray all the trees.

            So-called “salvage logging” is not the answer either, because it does more damage than the beetles and interferes with natural selection.

          • #6 by Larry Bergan on October 2, 2016 - 2:16 pm

            Thanks Richard.

            Weinholtz got into the expense of not having the federal government involved in land management in the first debate. It would be a disaster if Utah had to pay all the costs. Herbert just throws this garbage out there, and we’re supposed to believe it.

  2. #7 by Larry Bergan on October 1, 2016 - 7:08 pm

    I’ve been out canvassing for Weinholtz and it hasn’t been that fun. Most of the time, people aren’t home and I wait at each door for quite a while. People are super nice, but too many of them say they think Herbert is doing OK. Most of them haven’t heard of Weinholtz or don’t seem to know much about him.

    But, I had about fifteen houses to finish out my map last Wednesday, and was asking everybody if they saw the televised debate. Only three said they had, and they were VERY excited. They all told me they would definitely be voting for Mike. It’s what I’ve always said; people want see a strong democrat and Mike really told Herbert and the Republican legislature off. I hope everybody see’s that, because although Herbert said he might look into another debate in answer to a question, I would eat my shorts if he did.

  3. #8 by Larry Bergan on October 3, 2016 - 12:52 am

  4. #9 by Richard Warnick on October 5, 2016 - 12:48 pm

    Nothing to do with the election, but creepy clown hysteria is sweeping Utah – if you believe the media.

    Social media fueling creepy clown hype in Utah, police say

    One confirmed clown sighting in Provo among dozens of concerned reports

    From what we have learned so far, creepy clowns are a bigger threat to average Americans than ISIS. Also dog bites, toddlers with guns, lightning strikes and unstable furniture kill more people in the U.S.

    10 Things More Likely to Kill You than Islamic Terror

    • #10 by Larry Bergan on October 5, 2016 - 2:57 pm

      OMG people!

      It’s October in Utah. Halloween has overtaken Christmas as the #1 holiday of the year here. Comic Con isn’t the only thing people dress up for. We dress up for everything.

      There was a policeman on the news somewhere after the Clinton/Trump debate, telling people that presidential debates were NOT a reason to call 911.

      • #11 by Larry Bergan on October 6, 2016 - 9:52 am

        I realized we had a nationwide clown crisis named Donald Trump, but I didn’t realize how many other clowns there were.

        Stephen Colbert had a segment about them on his show last night.

      • #12 by Larry Bergan on October 8, 2016 - 12:41 pm

        Haha! 🙂

    • #13 by Richard Warnick on October 5, 2016 - 8:01 pm

    • #14 by Richard Warnick on October 7, 2016 - 10:08 pm

      Chelsea Handler has a talk show on Netflix. In the latest episode she did a funny report on the Creepy Clown Crisis. Concluding with the Utah police recommendation against shooting random clowns – which Chelsea noted was only a recommendation and “not a hard no.”

  5. #15 by Larry Bergan on October 5, 2016 - 4:17 pm

    Interesting tally sheet on what governor Herbert’s plan for Utah’s land is costing us.

    Your Taxes Hard at Work

  6. #16 by Richard Warnick on October 29, 2016 - 12:47 pm

    I just filled out my ballot. For a second I was tempted to go with Superdell Schanze, but I did the right thing and voted for the responsible choice, Mike Weinholtz. But I never saw Mike buzz I-15 in a motorized hang glider!

    • #17 by Larry Bergan (mobile) on October 29, 2016 - 1:17 pm


      Schanze’s personal statement in the voter pamphlet was unlike any other. You have to give it that. I guess it’s to be expected from a guy who built a business over being crazy on TV ads.

      When that guy crashed through the roof of a church in his hang glider recently, I couldn’t have been the only person wondering if it was somebody we all know. 🙂

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