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NRA Peddles Guns For Kids – What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
Posted by Richard Warnick in National Politics, NRA, People Are Nuts, Some people should not own guns, This Blog on May 3, 2013

Many adults don’t understand that guns are not toys. They are deadly weapons. Until this week, I was blissfully unaware that the Gun Lobby is peddling .22 caliber rifles for kids as young as 4 and 5. These weapons were prominently featured at the NRA annual convention just after another accidental shooting tragedy.
On Tuesday, a five-year-old Kentucky boy accidentally shot and killed his two-year-old sister with a gun he’d been given as a birthday present. The weapon, a small rifle, was manufactured specifically for children’s use.
In one week alone last month, four people were shot by toddlers.
Clark Aposhian, Utah’s Top Gun Lobbyist Assault Rifle Stolen. A Good Day for Some Air Guitar
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2nd Second Amendment, Gun Control, Republicans, Some people should not own guns, utah, Utah Legislature, Utah Politics on March 29, 2013
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“Oh shoot,”
Clark muttered under his breath when he discovered his ‘baby’ had been stolen out of the the back seat of his car as it sat parked in front of his house.
For the first time in Clark’s life, he knew the meaning of pants-around-ankles. Clark shuttered to think about his next move. ‘Do I call the police,’ Clark thought to himself, ‘how will I face my the students in my gun safety classes…or do I keep quiet and hope no one notices?’
“Shoot, shoot, SHOOT” Clark said, out loud this time.
Clark’s instincts kicked in. With the deftness of an eagle in flight, Clark swept the Glock out of his waistband and cocked it as his eyes narrowed transfixed on an imaginary enemy. Clark was a huge Clint Eastwood fan. He had perfected the “Clint squint” by first grade.
Seeing no immediate threat on the bucolic street at the end of his driveway, Clark spun around, crouched, and with both hands, aimed his gun toward the garage door.
“Don’t fuck with me,” Clark warned out loud as he crept back through the empty garage, into his empty house, hoping none of the neighbors had noticed.
A tingle ran up his spine. His mind raced back to his childhood and the endless days playing Cops and Robbers with his best friend Lil’ Clyde.
“Damned, those were the days” Clark said to himself as he straightened out and placed the Glock back in his pants. Stepping into the serenity of his empty kitchen, his mind went blank as it often did, without notice.
Unable to remember what he had come into the house for, Clark went over to his old vinyl record player and put on his favorite ZZ Top album and began doing air guitar. As he arched his back, he felt the barrel of the Glock press into his flesh.
“Shoot” Clark said out loud, remembering the was a bullet in the chamber. Then Clark remembered why he had come back into the house.
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By now everyone has heard about this story. It highlights a couple of things.
1. Even the most responsible gun owners cannot protect us from the unintended consequences of gun ownership.
2. Refer to #1.
Personally, I’d like to know why he had a thermal-imaging scope attached to it. As a lobbyist for the gun industry, I imagine Clark Aposhian has plenty of exotic freebies kicking around his house. But why was it actually ON THE GUN? What the fuck? Is there a new shooting sport we should know about?
Don’t miss the Wonkette’s satirical reflection on Clark’s big ooops: “Utah Gun Lobbyist’s AR-15 Stolen Because SUV Couldn’t Defend Itself“
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/utah-gun-lobbyist-has-ar-15-stolen-from
Another Idiot Dangles Penis (Assault Rifle) in Public (Utah House Judiciary Committee Hearing)
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2nd Second Amendment, Alan Korwin, Gun Control, Mass Shooting, NRA, Some people should not own guns, utah, Utah Legislature on February 20, 2013
Gail Turpin
Several observations after spending the afternoon in the Utah House Judiciary Committee hearings on 2 gun bills. Rep. Brian King and Rep. Patrice Arent are such a credit to their constituents and the Utah Democratic party. Both so smart and asked such relevant questions. Nineveh Dinha of Channel 13 is drop dead gorgeous. I had the pleasure of sitting next to Jean Welch Hill, who spoke eloquently on behalf of the Catholic Diocese of SLC on the need for reasonable gun control. I sure wish she was our Attorney General right now! The room was packed., complete with the guy with an assault rifle on his back, and the guy who was out of order so security came in and took him aside. I saw some of my favorite people and legislators, and it really is amazing to watch democracy in action.
Utah can be a very embarrassing place sometimes.
Fire-Prevention Bill Pulled From Utah Senate Because of Gun-Rights Fanatics
Posted by Richard Warnick in Democracy, Gun Control, Public Lands, Republicans, Some people should not own guns, This Blog, Utah Legislature, Utah Politics on February 2, 2013

Smoke and flames are seen over homes as the Dump Fire burns near Saratoga Springs on Friday, June 22, 2012. JIM MCAULEY/Daily Herald
Last June 21, target shooters ignited a wildfire near Saratoga Springs that burned 5,507 acres and cost $2.1 million to fight, and resulted in the evacuation of 9,000 residents from their homes. More than 20 Utah wildfires are started by irresponsible target shooters every year.
Why is target shooting causing wildfires? Don’t firearms enthusiasts go to firing ranges where safety precautions are the first priority? Well… regular firing ranges don’t let you shoot an AR-15 at an exploding star target (video), a Tannerite target, or use tracer or incendiary rounds.
Although Utah is one of the most heavily-armed states in the nation, our state government cannot regulate target shooting. Not even in an emergency, such as last year.
Utah code 76-10-500, passed in 1999, states: “Unless specifically authorized by the Legislature by statute, a local authority or state entity may not enact or enforce any ordinance, regulation, or rule pertaining to firearms.” A 2004 law contains similar phrasing.
It seemed like a simple fix for Utah State Senator Margaret Dayton (R-Orem), and State Rep. Curt Oda (R-Clearfield) to introduce SB120, a bill to allow the state forester to restrict target shooting when it would create a high risk of wildfires. It sailed through committee, and Dayton said she has the votes to pass it. But then the gun nuts went ballistic. As the Senate started to debate the measure Friday, Dayton pulled it and told senators that she may not bring it up again.
Once again, it appears that a common-sense measure with majority support cannot withstand the fury of the gun fanatics. Most likely, our state will remain powerless to stop preventable wildfire emergencies caused by yahoos with assault rifles.
UPDATE:
The two men charged with starting Saratoga Springs’ Dump Fire in June have pleaded no contest to reduced charges.
Idaho resident Kenneth Nielsen, 37, and Jeffrey Conant, 42, of Washington state, were originally charged in 4th District Court with reckless burning, a class A misdemeanor, and using prohibited targets, a class B misdemeanor.
… the pleas were part of a deal in which prosecutors agreed to drop the reckless burning charges, and won’t request jail time at sentencing.
The two men each agreed to pay $5,000 in restitution.
Charging documents state that Nielsen and Conant were target shooting near Saratoga Springs at 11:30 a.m. on June 21, when an explosive target ignited dry weeds and spread to burn the mountainside, court documents state.
Fire investigators discovered packaging linked to an explosive target the men used during their shooting session. A fingerprint on the packaging was traced to Nielsen, court documents state.
Rodney Boyer’s Opinion on ObamaCare
Posted by Cliff Lyon in American People, Health Care, ObamaCare, Some people should not own guns, Tribalism & Blind Obedience to Authority on January 29, 2013
Here’s Why Obama Should Use Presidential Executive Authority to Control Guns
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2nd Second Amendment, Gun Control, Mass Shooting, NRA, Some people should not own guns on January 13, 2013
Obama should exercise his presidential authority to effect sensible gun control nationally for two reasons:
1. It bring a badly needed Supreme Court challenge that will likely involve the “Militia” part of the second amendment.
2. It will turn up the volume for historians and constitutional experts in a broad national debate in which second-amendment-extremist will learn a more reasonable interpretation of the second amendment; one that is supported by fact and history instead of the version Justice Scalia smeared like skid marks into our national undies.
We are finally beginning to have an honest discussion about the true meaning of the Second Amendment. Until Sandy Hook, gun rights extremist managed to dominate the conversation. They were allowed to ignore the “A well regulated Militia, being necessary” part.
Here is a PERFECT EXAMPLE from an interview by Nashville’s WSMV-TV on Friday.
It is a fact that the average James Yeager and other Second Amendment Advocates cannot actually recite the whole sentence:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Obama should use his executive power if it will mean Wayne LaPierre, the average 2nd amendment “advocate” and crooked snake oil salesmen like David Hardy will be FORCED to read and memorize THE WHOLE SENTENCE and address the HISTORICAL FACTS surrounding the writing of the Bill of Rights.
What types of people shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?
Posted by Shane Smith in 2nd Second Amendment, assault weapons, Gun Control, Mass Shooting, NRA, Republicans, Some people should not own guns, This Blog on January 10, 2013
This type.
And who is that? James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response, a company that specializes in selling exactly the types of weapons we don’t need, and then training you to use them. Apparently to overthrow your government.
Sadly that is not his original channel video. Why? Because he is a total coward, and already took the original down. But on the internet, things have a tendency to pop back up again.
I eagerly await all the true patriot tea bagger supporters of freedom and haters of treasonous people who I am sure are already formulating a response to remove this man who just explained that he is planning on committing treason. I am sure they are shutting him done as I type this.
You know how people sometimes say “if only we had warning before he went crazy and flew off the handle” after a shooting? This video is a red flag. A giant screaming red flag. With fireworks.
Increasingly the first red flag that you are the type of mentally unstable person who shouldn’t be allowed to own a gun is that you own a gun.
Carolyn Cain, Utah County Special Ed Teacher and Gun Worshiper Embarrasses Utah
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2nd Second Amendment, Gun Control, Mass Shooting, Republicans, Some people should not own guns, utah, Utah Politics on January 9, 2013
This is why Utah is the laughing stock of the World.
The National Rifle Association countered with “arm the teachers.” Gun clubs claim hundreds of teachers are applying for free weapons training. Two hundred people showed up for a class in West Valley City, Utah, outside Salt Lake City, on December 27, 2012, for example. Not all of the people who took the course were teachers. But some were, including Carolyn Cain, who teaches special education kids in kindergarten to the 6th grade in Utah County, Utah.
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The Second Amendment IS NOT An Individual Right And Has Nothing to Do with Gun Ownership
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2nd Second Amendment, Alan Korwin, assault weapons, Gun Control, Mass Shooting, NRA, Republicans, Some people should not own guns on December 29, 2012
Since OneUtah enjoys an audience of the most vocal proponents of arming American to the teeth ( I call you Bubbas), it seems appropriate to provide this EXCELLENT legal, historical analysis of the Second Amendment for ongoing reference.
Cheat Sheet for Bubbas:
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The word ‘militia’ appears 5 times in the constitution.
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Nineteenth Century state courts construed “bear arms” as having a purely military function
If you are semi-conscious today, you probably think your Second Amendment rights all but require every citizen carry a grenade launcher to defend himself, family, property, dog and pretty much anyone who happens to be within range of his choice of ammunition. And you probably think the ‘right to bear arms’ was intended as an individual right and has always been interpreted as such.
AND, you would be wrong…DEAD WRONG.
The Gun Lobby’s interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime. The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies – the militia – would be maintained for the defense of the state. The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires. – Chief Justice Warren Burger, “The Right to Bear Arms,” Parade Magazine, January 14, 1990
Ever notice self-proclaimed Second Amendment experts (Bubbas) VIRTUALLY IGNORE the word “MILITIA?” Of course you have. No self-respecting NRA member, nor the average, spineless gun toting coward would DARE read the actual text of the Second Amendment even if they could.
So, it is up to the rest of us to get real clear on the Original Intent of the Second Amendment. A slow, careful read of the the article (below) is sufficient to arm yourself to the gills to pound any gun freak into the ground.
The Second Amendment Has Nothing to Do with Gun Ownership.
Sample Excerpt:
“Six of the original 13 states, when ratifying the Constitution, proposed amendments which would become the Bill of Rights. Four of these six ratifying conventions – those of New York, Virginia, Rhode Island and North Carolina – proposed amendments whose language closely mirrored what would become the Second Amendment. But the debates at the ratifying conventions in these four states make it clear that the delegates wanted to guarantee the right of the states to have militias, despite the constitutional empowerment to the Congress to arm the militias.”
National Rifle Association Has Turned the Second Amendment Into a Cruel and Deadly Hoax
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2nd Second Amendment, Activist groups, Alan Korwin, assault weapons, Bush Failures, Gabrielle Giffords, Gun Control, John Lott, Mass Shooting, NRA, Republicans, Society, Some people should not own guns, Supreme Court, The Constitution on December 21, 2012
The NRA is the enabler of death-paranoid, delusional and as venomous as a scorpion. With the weak-kneed acquiescence of our politicians, the National Rifle Association has turned the Second Amendment of the Constitution into a cruel and deadly hoax. – Bill Moyers
Bill Moyers Essay: Living Under the Gun from BillMoyers.com on Vimeo.
The procession of funerals of innocent children under the casual gaze of the gun lobby and 2nd Amendment zealots, reminds us that our public spaces are no longer safe. This is the antithesis of freedom and civic life. Americans must rise up now against this terror and demand basic security for unarmed people.
Right-Wing Parents Dilemma: Arm Your Kids Or Bullet-Proof Them?
Posted by Richard Warnick in assault weapons, Gun Control, Mass Shooting, Some people should not own guns, utah on December 18, 2012
Since right-wingers consider the Second Amendment more sacred than any religious belief you can imagine, they won’t consider making schools safer by keep guns out or banning assault weapons.
What to do? One enterprising Utah family sent their sixth-grader to school today armed with a handgun. Unfortunately he pointed the gun at the head of another student, and has been charged with aggravated assault.
“He pulled out a gun and he put it to my head — me and my friend — (and) said he was going to kill us,” Isabelle Rios told KSL. “I told him I was going to tell, but he said, ‘If you tell, I’m going to kill you.’”
Other parents are rushing to buy body armor for their kids. Amendment II, a Salt Lake City-based company that manufactures lightweight body armor, makes a line of bullet-proof backpacks for children. The president of the company, Derek Williams, told Mother Jones that his post-massacre business is booming.
“I can’t go into exact sales numbers, but basically we tripled our sales volume of backpacks that we typically do in a month—in one week,” Williams says.
This was an attempt at a somewhat light-hearted post. But make no mistake, the Connecticut mass shooting will have major repercussions. Cerberus Capital Management, the holding company that owns the manufacturer of Bushmaster assault rifles, is putting the company up for sale.
In a statement, Cerberus calls Friday’s school shooting rampage “a watershed event that has raised the national debate on gun control to an unprecedented level.”
26 Dead in a Shooting at an Elementary School.
Posted by Glenden Brown in Alan Korwin, Gun Control, John Lott, NRA, Some people should not own guns on December 14, 2012
I can’t imagine any response other than profound grief.
Apparently the shooter – who is dead – was only 20 years. 18 children dead.
Let’s fucking talk about gun control.






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