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This is a Real Facebook Post
Posted by Cliff Lyon in American People, Conservatives, Homophobia, Mormon LDS, Republicans, Tea Bag Party, utah on February 22, 2013
I post this as a classic example of how the right-wing has hacks the most blunt, vulnerable minds.
An actual real FB post
John Edwin Jackson
Would you believe this: A movement rises to strip free speech from corporate America, to take the right to speak from PACs and churches and businesses and any other group that is an “artificial entity.”They would take away free speech — one of the most basic of all human rights — and they would do this right here in America.
The startling thing, to me, is that the movement is winning in so many ways. The startling thing, to me, is that I run into so many people who agree with them. The startling thing, to me, is that while this issue has hardly caught the public’s eye, when it has, people are buying in with it.
The startling thing, to me, is that (if I’ve been told correctly) Montana’s voters have passed legislation calling on leaders to push for a constitutional amendment stripping free speech from corporate America. A citizen’s initiative also passed in Colorado, but it called only for corporate campaigning limits, not actually stripping free speech altogether from corporations. California is considering putting an initiative on the ballot. Voters in about 175 local entities have passed initiatives calling for amending the Constitution, and the governing bodies, themselves, of about 350 local entities have passed measures pushing for a constitutional amendment.
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Claiming Abstinence, LDS, Idaho, Republican Senator Mike Crapo Arrested for Drunk Driving
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Conservatives, Edward Kennedy, Hypocrisy, Liars (politics), Lying, Mitt Romney, Mormon LDS, Republicans on December 25, 2012
We are no longer surprised when a Republican politician who claims superior virtues and morality, fidelity or religious conviction turns out to be a hypocrite.
The steady parade of Republican hypocrites remind us of our differences. We pedestrian scum (Democrats) claim to hold no high ground in the realm of personal purity. In stark contrast, Republicans to the person, bathe in self-righteous claims of moral superiority.
Mike Crapo mug shot
No doubt, Republican apologists will invoke Lewinski or Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick in a feeble effort to distract us from the hypocrisy. Its all they’ve got. But neither Clinton nor Kennedy associated himself with the lofty moral high ground claimed by their Republican counterparts. Neither man was elected under such an absurd premise. And we Democrats cherish the Founders intention that we be free to elect “scumbags.” The Founding Fathers knew self-professed moral angels were likely to disappoint.
Ever since Karl Rove convinced the Republican Party to grab its collective ankles before the alter of the Evangelical Christian Right, Republican politicians have rushed to the public podium to loudly and publicly declare themselves proprietors of an impossibly high “moral” standard. The result is serial oneupsmanship among Republicans at every level of office and a predictable train wreck of hypocrisy.
For Mike Crapo, being a Republican AND a Mormon AND a drunk is a double whammy made all the worse coming on the heels of Mitt Romney’s ass whuppin’. No one will be surprised when we find Willard slumped by the side of the road soaked in his own urine. Such is the state of today’s Republican party a.k.a. The Clown Barkers’ Carnival.
The AP reported this story
A Romney Supporter Reported Me To Facebook? I Am Blocked for 7 Days.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2012 Elections, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Mormon LDS, Racism, Republicans, Tribalism & Blind Obedience to Authority on November 5, 2012
Facebook censorship or whiny Republicans or both?
Is a candidate’s religion relevant?
Posted by Glenden Brown in 2012 Elections, Elections, Human Rights, Mormon LDS, Religion, Religious Fundamentalism, This Blog on October 25, 2012
And if so, in what ways?
In 2008, Republicans did everything they could to make Barack Obama’s religion an issue. Fox had 30 seconds of Jeremiah Wright on endless loop for ages. This year, with Mitt Romney’s candidacy we’re apparently not supposed to talk about religion at all.
There’s a video making the rounds which purports to have been secretly filmed inside a Mormon temple during the secret ceremonies. I’ve watched the video and it seems entirely consistent with what I’ve heard about those ceremonies. OTOH, I’ve never actually gone through Mormon temple ceremonies so I can’t vouch for its accuracy. As a non-Mormon the rituals certainly seem daffy. A hand comes through a veil, you grasp it a certain way and you answer a question, then grasp it another way and answer another question and so on.
Watching the video, the whole ritual seemed more than a bit daffy to me. But then I’m an inveterate skeptic and am subject to the church giggles at almost given moment in almost any worship service. I recognize that faithful Mormons take these rituals very seriously. The formal language, the gradual initiation into spiritual mysteries, the process by which previous initiates welcome new comers are serious and profound to the faithful. Mormon theology and mysticism seems structured around a similar pattern of advancing through a series of initiation, each leading into deeper knowledge of the spiritual mysteries. On the site I first saw the video, the headline read “Mitt Romney Believes in This.” Which brings me to the question I find myself pondering – is a candidate’s religion relevant? And if so, in what ways?
Except for Rush Limbaugh, ALL the Top Republicans Shills Have Broken Ranks With Mittens Rmoney
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2012 Elections, Conservative, Conservatives, Mormon LDS, National Politics, Party Politics, Republicans, Rush Limbaugh on September 24, 2012
We are witnessing the end-days of the GOP. R.I.P.
The question becomes, who will win the final battle; the racist Religious extremists, the racist Tea Baggers or the tired old-guard racist Republicans?
Stay tuned…
How Many Children Are Being Indoctrinated into Bigoted Christian Doctrine
Posted by Cliff Lyon in American People, Bigotry, Bigotry, Equality, GLBT issues, Homophobia, Mormon LDS, Religion, Religious Fundamentalism, Republicans, Taliban, Utah Politics on May 30, 2012
Update: TMZ is reporting this took place in the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle in Greensburg, Indiana. Sure looks like the same pastor.
I think this appalling video reflects just how ugly organized religion can get. We’ve seen it throughout history. No Judeo-Christian religion is immune.
That it is happening now in THIS country is very much motivated and inspired by the the GOP/Bush/Rove decade of an unrepentant appeal of God, Guns and Gays.
At this point, I see little difference between American Evangelism and Muslim extremism. Christians persecute gays in America still today, as they do in Muslim countries…and obedient crowds cheer.
Most Utah Women Want Government Up Their Vaginas
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Holly Richardson, Laugh, Mitt Romney, Mormon LDS, Religion, Religious Fundamentalism, Republicans on May 6, 2012
Finally, I understand why there are woman who vote Republican.
Giving Utah Leaders What They Want
While most women might find it distressing that legislation has popped up across various states that would restrict affordable birth control and enforce invasive ultrasounds before going through with an abortion, these women find them to be refreshing.
Mitt Romney Loves Everything; Trees, Lakes, Cars and Money
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2012 Elections, Mitt Romney, Mormon LDS, National Politics, Polygamy, Republicans on April 24, 2012
Imagine the material yet to come.
Ann Romney loves everything too.
“I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us.” – Ann Romney, Apr 23, 2012
Live Streaming the Utah State Republican Convention
Posted by Cliff Lyon in 2012 Elections, Activist groups, Bob Bennett, Carl Wimmer, Conservative, Conservatives, Holly Richardson, Liars (politics), Mike Lee, Mormon LDS, Orrin Hatch, Republicans, Rob Bishop, Tea Bag Party, utah, Utah Legislature, Utah Politics on April 21, 2012
Will Hatch survive?
Utah Republicans eat their own!
Mormon Rejects Mormon Church Denouncment of Mormon Folk Beliefs About Blacks and Priesthood
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Bigotry, Mormon LDS, Racism, Religion, Religious Fundamentalism, Salt Lake City, utah on March 1, 2012
Joseph Smith, Founder, Prophet, Revelator...and racist?
This is of course a very tired subject. I did not intend on writing about it until I saw the a user comment on the Trib article. First, a little background…
BYU Religion Professor Randy Bott attempted to explain the LDS Church’s exclusion of Blacks throughout its history until 1978. Bott explained that by excluding Blacks from the priesthood, the church was saving them from:
“the lowest rungs of hell reserved for people who abuse their priesthood powers…You couldn’t fall off the top of the ladder because you weren’t on the top of the ladder. So, in reality the blacks not having the priesthood was the greatest blessing god could give them.“
This is what we in Utah call Mormon Apologetics. It is an art form here.
The LDS Church strongly denounced racism Wednesday and dismissed folk beliefs about why the Utah-based faith banned blacks from its all-male priesthood until 1978.- Salt Lake Tribune
I found this in among the comments on this article in the Salt Lake Tribune.
I’m active LDS and I cringe when the church tries to cater to leftist political correctness and tries to change history. Randy Bott didn’t commit the dreaded “racism” either.
Most of the church’s response is absolutely true but part is splitting hairs because what Randy Bott said IS exactly correct, IS true doctrine, but what he said isn’t CURRENTLY focused on by the church (so since the church doesn’t focus on it, they’re implying that Randy isn’t speaking church doctrine). Unless passages of scripture and writings of past LDS leaders are going to be erased, it’s easy to prove. Past LDS leaders, by the truckload, dared to speak the truth that most blacks were not as valiant before we came here. Blacks DO descend from Cain. This was never a matter of dispute UNTIL political correctness came along and liberals wanted to alter all sorts of realities (btw I love how wikipedia refuses to use “B.C. and A.D.” anymore). Blacks ARE children of God and have equal OPPORTUNITY to seek for truth and teach it (equality before God isn’t true either and the scriptures back this up plainly, see Alma 28:13). In practice, most blacks just aren’t interested in the light and understanding of truth (they tend to prefer group think over truth). I wish this wasn’t the case. Whites have rejected Jesus Christ in droves and I would LOVE to see blacks en masse accept all the truth and remind lazy/arrogant whites that FULL conversion to the gospel of Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to happiness and the only way to receive the miracles of God. I would love to see God pour out miracles and blessings on blacks, but the sad reality is that most of them just don’t seek the face of God. There are many blacks with TONS of faith in Christ, but they can’t break out of the groupthink and the segregated “black churches.”
I’m not ashamed of the truth and if lying leftists want to use the only word they know how to use (the term racism) then so be it. The church only creates problems for itself when it avoids the mountains of past teachings. Supporting conflicting bills dealing with the criminal illegals was similar double talk that only backfired on the church. Supporting the idiotic “compact” while not signing it also backfired. The general authorities have a very hard job and frankly they’re not experienced at DEALING with thorny issues (avoidance is the current order of the day). I would have just focused on Blacks being children of God and left it at that.
Calling the mountain of past teachings by LDS leaders “folk beliefs” is intellectually dishonest. Oh well, I’ve made mistakes in my callings too.
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