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I’m so sorry to write this missive as a lead article (for 15 minutes) but I don’t remember how to find the comments and respond to them. The lonely little side-bar response to my article I’ve not seen, except for half a sentence. It seemed to be saying that the old days are gone now, and so we need NATO and the JN. I agree. With NATO, it is the trip-wire provision that we go to war, automatically if any NATO nation is attacked, regardless of who the attacker is. This takes not only the United States Congress, but the president, as Commander in Chief, from the decision to go to war. I support both the UN and, if handled correctly, NATO. But President J. Reuben Clark and I oppose the automatic going to war. Just like the fools, the ancient general staffs of all sides in WW I. No one wanted that war. There was no Adolph Hitler in that war that destroyed the entire 20th century. Better to have shot the general staffs, who came to deserve exactly that. What President Clark called for, and I, are what the United States has always done, before NATO. That is, to have treaties of peace and friendship with our allies and then, should hostilities commence, such treaties would call for all parties to go to war, or not, as their constitutions provide. In this way, we don’t declare war against a nation, and surely all the people, have not yet been born. How, pray tell, do we justify going to war against, and for, people not, or no longer, live on earth. With a few caveats, ditto for the UN. No provision of law allows the UN to overreach Congress in the decision for war or peace. For anyone interested, read my book with the late Francis Wormuth, To Cain the Dog of War. It is by odds the best book ever written on the way we go to war. Every single war we’ve ever fought, including our wars against the Indian tribes, is there analyzed. Francis did not live to see this book in print. I worked two years after his death to finish it. And I updated it 4 or 5 times, alone. I still put my dear friend’s name first, because I am honored to be linked, now, forever. Something like Mormon marriage through time and eternity. ed firmage xoxo
You can view the view here on BYU Idaho’s student life youtube channel (most places you try to embed or play it, you get the message it’s been removed due to copyright claims by BYU Idaho).
The video was widely mocked online.
This morning, The Deseret News published an article discussing the video (which is why I included the “maybe” in my headline):
Time.com tried to clear up the misperception that the video was a “war on masturbation” by publishing a lengthy Q&A with BYU-Idaho President Kim Clark on Thursday. The piece includes a long description of LDS doctrine.
“Neither my talk nor the video has anything to do with masturbation,” Clark said. “There’s nothing in the video or in my talk about that. We were really focused on addictions, pornography, things that are really damaging spiritually to people.”
Between Clark’s “church voice” commentary, the imagery and the apparent anti-masturbation message, the video plays into widely held perceptions of Mormons as painfully earnest, prudish and a bit naive. Of course it went viral. It reinforces cultural stereotypes about Mormons and Mormonism. The serious tone, the painfully earnest church voice commentary by Clark, the obsession with sexuality, even the clearly well meaning purpose of the video plays into stereotypes of Mormons. It’s all there.
It’s also another example of the cultual chasm between the culture of the faithful in the Mormon corridor and the rest of America.
I’ll turn the floor over to the cult of Dusty so he can offer insightful and foul-mouthed commentary:
I post this as a classic example of how the right-wing has hacks the most blunt, vulnerable minds.
John Edwin Jackson
Would you believe this: A movement rises to strip free speech from corporate America, to take the right to speak from PACs and churches and businesses and any other group that is an “artificial entity.”
They would take away free speech — one of the most basic of all human rights — and they would do this right here in America.
The startling thing, to me, is that the movement is winning in so many ways. The startling thing, to me, is that I run into so many people who agree with them. The startling thing, to me, is that while this issue has hardly caught the public’s eye, when it has, people are buying in with it.
The startling thing, to me, is that (if I’ve been told correctly) Montana’s voters have passed legislation calling on leaders to push for a constitutional amendment stripping free speech from corporate America. A citizen’s initiative also passed in Colorado, but it called only for corporate campaigning limits, not actually stripping free speech altogether from corporations. California is considering putting an initiative on the ballot. Voters in about 175 local entities have passed initiatives calling for amending the Constitution, and the governing bodies, themselves, of about 350 local entities have passed measures pushing for a constitutional amendment.
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This one is a winner. This is why America is deteriorating. Republicans are uninformed, vacuous people.
And if so, in what ways?
In 2008, Republicans did everything they could to make Barack Obama’s religion an issue. Fox had 30 seconds of Jeremiah Wright on endless loop for ages. This year, with Mitt Romney’s candidacy we’re apparently not supposed to talk about religion at all.
There’s a video making the rounds which purports to have been secretly filmed inside a Mormon temple during the secret ceremonies. I’ve watched the video and it seems entirely consistent with what I’ve heard about those ceremonies. OTOH, I’ve never actually gone through Mormon temple ceremonies so I can’t vouch for its accuracy. As a non-Mormon the rituals certainly seem daffy. A hand comes through a veil, you grasp it a certain way and you answer a question, then grasp it another way and answer another question and so on.
Watching the video, the whole ritual seemed more than a bit daffy to me. But then I’m an inveterate skeptic and am subject to the church giggles at almost given moment in almost any worship service. I recognize that faithful Mormons take these rituals very seriously. The formal language, the gradual initiation into spiritual mysteries, the process by which previous initiates welcome new comers are serious and profound to the faithful. Mormon theology and mysticism seems structured around a similar pattern of advancing through a series of initiation, each leading into deeper knowledge of the spiritual mysteries. On the site I first saw the video, the headline read “Mitt Romney Believes in This.” Which brings me to the question I find myself pondering – is a candidate’s religion relevant? And if so, in what ways?
We are witnessing the end-days of the GOP. R.I.P.
The question becomes, who will win the final battle; the racist Religious extremists, the racist Tea Baggers or the tired old-guard racist Republicans?
I think this appalling video reflects just how ugly organized religion can get. We’ve seen it throughout history. No Judeo-Christian religion is immune.
That it is happening now in THIS country is very much motivated and inspired by the the GOP/Bush/Rove decade of an unrepentant appeal of God, Guns and Gays.
At this point, I see little difference between American Evangelism and Muslim extremism. Christians persecute gays in America still today, as they do in Muslim countries…and obedient crowds cheer.