Posts Tagged 2nd Amendment
I’m sick and tired of the “guns don’t kill people; people do” mantra. Its too stupid for words.
If it ain’t a hunting rifle, it was designed for a singular purpose, to give a human being the ability to kill another human being. The same cannot be said about spoons, knives, cars, hammers or hamburgers.
Thom Hartmann explains to Larry the caller why the 2nd Amendment was written to allow citizens to defend their country, not defend AGAINST tyranny.
What would it take for you to stand out in front of your house with weapons and defend yourself against the federal government?
Second Amendment Primer: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,…”
Obama should exercise his presidential authority to effect sensible gun control nationally for two reasons:
1. It bring a badly needed Supreme Court challenge that will likely involve the “Militia” part of the second amendment.
2. It will turn up the volume for historians and constitutional experts in a broad national debate in which second-amendment-extremist will learn a more reasonable interpretation of the second amendment; one that is supported by fact and history instead of the version Justice Scalia smeared like skid marks into our national undies.
We are finally beginning to have an honest discussion about the true meaning of the Second Amendment. Until Sandy Hook, gun rights extremist managed to dominate the conversation. They were allowed to ignore the “A well regulated Militia, being necessary” part.
Here is a PERFECT EXAMPLE from an interview by Nashville’s WSMV-TV on Friday.
It is a fact that the average James Yeager and other Second Amendment Advocates cannot actually recite the whole sentence:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Obama should use his executive power if it will mean Wayne LaPierre, the average 2nd amendment “advocate” and crooked snake oil salesmen like David Hardy will be FORCED to read and memorize THE WHOLE SENTENCE and address the HISTORICAL FACTS surrounding the writing of the Bill of Rights.
The National Rifle Association countered with “arm the teachers.” Gun clubs claim hundreds of teachers are applying for free weapons training. Two hundred people showed up for a class in West Valley City, Utah, outside Salt Lake City, on December 27, 2012, for example. Not all of the people who took the course were teachers. But some were, including Carolyn Cain, who teaches special education kids in kindergarten to the 6th grade in Utah County, Utah.
Since OneUtah enjoys an audience of the most vocal proponents of arming American to the teeth ( I call you Bubbas), it seems appropriate to provide this EXCELLENT legal, historical analysis of the Second Amendment for ongoing reference.
Cheat Sheet for Bubbas:
The word ‘militia’ appears 5 times in the constitution.
Nineteenth Century state courts construed “bear arms” as having a purely military function
If you are semi-conscious today, you probably think your Second Amendment rights all but require every citizen carry a grenade launcher to defend himself, family, property, dog and pretty much anyone who happens to be within range of his choice of ammunition. And you probably think the ‘right to bear arms’ was intended as an individual right and has always been interpreted as such.
AND, you would be wrong…DEAD WRONG.
The Gun Lobby’s interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime. The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies – the militia – would be maintained for the defense of the state. The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires. – Chief Justice Warren Burger, “The Right to Bear Arms,” Parade Magazine, January 14, 1990
Ever notice self-proclaimed Second Amendment experts (Bubbas) VIRTUALLY IGNORE the word “MILITIA?” Of course you have. No self-respecting NRA member, nor the average, spineless gun toting coward would DARE read the actual text of the Second Amendment even if they could.
So, it is up to the rest of us to get real clear on the Original Intent of the Second Amendment. A slow, careful read of the the article (below) is sufficient to arm yourself to the gills to pound any gun freak into the ground.
“Six of the original 13 states, when ratifying the Constitution, proposed amendments which would become the Bill of Rights. Four of these six ratifying conventions – those of New York, Virginia, Rhode Island and North Carolina – proposed amendments whose language closely mirrored what would become the Second Amendment. But the debates at the ratifying conventions in these four states make it clear that the delegates wanted to guarantee the right of the states to have militias, despite the constitutional empowerment to the Congress to arm the militias.”
The NRA is the enabler of death-paranoid, delusional and as venomous as a scorpion. With the weak-kneed acquiescence of our politicians, the National Rifle Association has turned the Second Amendment of the Constitution into a cruel and deadly hoax. – Bill Moyers
The procession of funerals of innocent children under the casual gaze of the gun lobby and 2nd Amendment zealots, reminds us that our public spaces are no longer safe. This is the antithesis of freedom and civic life. Americans must rise up now against this terror and demand basic security for unarmed people.
Link: The driver , of a white Dodge Intrepid pulled into the drive-through at about 2 a.m. at McDonald’s at 210 W. 500 South in Salt Lake City and ordered food from the lunch and dinner menu, police said.
When a clerk told her the restaurant was serving only items from the breakfast menu, the woman drove to the second window, police said. Two men got out of the car, and one pulled a sawed-off shotgun out of the trunk, police said. He fired once or twice into the drive-though window before the two men and the woman left…
That’s right. Amid strong public opposition, the rural, religious, right-wing politicos that run the state have taken Utah closer to the territory of the Wild Wild West for which they yearn.
Link: The two bills make changes to current gun laws to allow loaded firearms to be carried in vehicles without the necessity of a concealed weapons permit, and require businesses to allow loaded firearms in vehicles parked on their property…
…all for which will only make it easier for pretty much anyone to steal a loaded gun without having to confront its owner. Yeaaaaah!!!
On the issue of allowing loaded firearms to be carried in vehicles without a concealed weapons permit, 60 percent of respondents were somewhat or strongly opposed, while 35 percent were somewhat or strongly in favor.
Ah, but the gun lobby is very very active at the Capitol and the spine of the average pioneer, well…absent.
Seemingly, Republican legislators are willing to take the sides of gun rights lobbyists against the rights of property owners,” Gunn said. “Legislators are saying that gun rights trump property rights.
But then what are Republicans if not hypocrites.
JESUS! It hasn’t even been 24 hours, and we have like twenty dead innocent Americans in three different shootings without even looking too hard.
I wonder how murders were prevented today with guns.
Man accidentally shoots brother while comparing weaponsMarch 30th, 2009 @ 10:54am
Brotherly bonding over guns ended with one of the siblings in the hospital.
The Tooele County Sheriff’s Office says the pair was driving from their home in Elko Nevada to Salt Lake City Saturday morning when they began comparing the weapons they both had with them. It was then that one of the brothers accidentally shot the other.
He apparently did not realize his gun was loaded.
The man was shot in the leg. He was transported via helicopter to the University of Utah Medical Center and is expected to be OK.
So this Gun Freak named Nightmare sends his nine-year-old son to school wearing this T-Shirt. School makes the kid turn it inside out for the rest of the day. Gun-Freak Dad spends 6 straight days blogging about it.
What is this extreme obsession with guns? I weep for the poor little kid. He’s not even old enough to use a gun and his Dad is using him to promote guns and scaring a lot of other little kids in the process.
Link: I was informed that he was removed from the classroom and taken to a Counsellor who convinced him to remove the shirt and turn it inside out. That spurs questions in my “investigative mind”…
He was then returned to the classroom. He was made to wear his clothing in an inappropriate manner in front of the other students.
Nevermind that his education was disrupted and he was singled out by the teacher.
Nevermind that the t-shirt contained no obscenities, doesn’t suggest or promote anti-social behavior, doesn’t advertise alcohol, tobbaco or the occult, violence, vulgarity, profanity or sexual references.
Nevermind that the school has a home contact and other emergency contact numbers for reaching us.
Nevermind that they didn’t call to bring the matter up.
I think the guy actually typed out the school’s handbook including dress code which forbids clothing that:
“advertises any product or service not permitted to minors by law.
…suggests or promotes anti-social behavior, violence,…”
Is an NRA t-shirt with 4 hand guns designed to shoot at people on it promoting violence? I would be hard to imagine a more violent t-shirt. I suppose depicting and actual murder might be worse.
Does an NRA t-shirt with 4 hand guns designed to shoot at people promote anti-social behavior? Next time you are in a nice social situation like school, church or family picnic, try pulling out a hand gun then take a poll.
Is it speech protected by the First Amendment? Yes, except in responsible schools with thoughtful policies designed to protect innocent children from the vagaries of their parents.