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Most Utah Women Want Government Up Their Vaginas

Finally, I understand why there are woman who vote Republican.

Giving Utah Leaders What They Want

While most women might find it distressing that legislation has popped up across various states that would restrict affordable birth control and enforce invasive ultrasounds before going through with an abortion, these women find them to be refreshing.

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Who Really Killed Dr. Tiller? Murder in the Name of Christianity.

A few things are empirically true about the murder of Kansas Doctor George Tiller this past summer. The murderer, Scott Roeder and his supporters are angry, extremist, fundamentalist Christians.

While all major Christian institutions have condemned the murder, they have also disavowed the tactics of militant anti-abortion folks who legitimize their behavior under the banner of Christianity.

Even Bill O’Reilly, primary provocateur of record, has clearly and explicitly condemned Scott Roeder and the slaying of an innocent man in the name of Christianity. But O’Reilly did not act alone. He was encouraged, CHEERED in fact, by a small number of militant Christians with a clear history of harassment and violence in and around Wichita Kansas. Apparently, bloggers played a major role, some of them even falling over themselves to take credit.

That is why Richard Okelberry’s history of militant anti-abortion speech, long-standing attacks on Dr. Tiller and his  explicit refusal to condemn Tiller’s murder demands closer scrutiny as to the role he played in this horrific affront to human decency and Christian values.

Note: Richard Okelberry hails from Lincoln, Nebraska less than 200 miles from Roeder’s home.

By his own admission, Okelberry began sending letters about Dr. George Tiller at last as early as March 2006. In a post titled (surprise) “Tiller The baby Killer” which features a faked photo of Tiller in jail, Okelberry writes;

Scott Reoder ProvocateurI also sent copies to Planned Parenthood, the areas premier abortion provider, as well as several state representatives and a few nationally syndicated radio talk show hosts…One of those copied was Mr. Bill O’Reilly from the Fox News Channel and the Bill O’Reilly Show. Richard Okelberry March 24, 2006

It is well know by now that up until the time of Tiller’s murder, O’Reilly or guest, had mentioned Tiller (as the Baby Killer) at least 28 times. In the same post Okleberry implicitly claims to have encouraged Bill O’Reilly:

While I have no idea whether or not my correspondence had any effect, I can tell you with all certainty that Bill O’Reilly has now picked up the ball and is running for the ”in-zone.” In fact he has launched an all out campaign against the infamous Kansas doctor that he calls, “Tiller the baby killer.”

In the days following one of Okelberry’s letters O’Reilly said on the air:

“No question Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands. But now so does Governor Sebelius. She is not fit to serve. Nor is any Kansas politician who supports Tiller’s business of destruction. I wouldn’t want to be these people if there is a Judgment Day.

By any measure, this is a veiled death threat.  While O’Reilly has consistently shocked the world with his bullying, cruelty and recklessness, he is not known for originating death threats.  One can only assume that he was referring to threats made by others?  But who?  Who among O’Reilly’s sources was using the term Judgment Day in reference to Tiller?

I think the answer is clear.  This is a Christian term which, in its most popular context, means death, deserving of death to be specific.

Lets take a moment and consider the vitriol in Okelberry’s writings. In this post of less than 500 words attacking Obama and Sebelius, Okelberry refers to Tiller as a “baby killer” no less than SEVEN times.

Militant Anti-Abortionist“…Gov. Sebelius, even threw a party for the infamous Tiller the Baby Killer (George Tiller)…to thank Tiller for his sizable blood money….Tiller the Baby Killer isn’t just your run of the mill abortionist….that will pluck the dead remains of a fully developed baby at 9 months…Tiller the Baby Killer and his wife…”

George Tiller was murdered 90 days later.

While it remains unclear exactly what role his vicious anti-abortion advocacy played in encouraging the cold-blooded murder of George Tiller by Scott Reoder, it is clear that Ricard Okelberry petitioned Bill O’Reilly to villanize a great and brave Doctor who risked his life everyday to protect the health and in many cases, the lives of women. Richard Okelberry bragged about it.

As a prolific contributing author to a popular local Utah blog called KVNU’s For The People, Okelberry’s response to Tiller’s murder was expected to reflect some contrition.  As one who wore his Christianity on his sleeve, we all expected some remorse, at the very least a clear condemnation for this unchristian act.  Instead, in a post entitled Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical (which was subsequently removed), we got:

Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of RadicalMy first instinct after hearing of the shooting Sunday was to write an essay on the topic.  Instead I decided to take a moment to allow those on both sides of this issue make their case.  I was not surprised to find some on the right rejoicing over the death of Tiller.

Should we also look at the charitable record of his murderer to justify his actions?  Both of these men were evil and murderous.  They are both GUILTY!

This is the first death of an abortionist at the hands of a pro-lifer in over 20 YEARS!  This is not a pattern, but merely an incident.  Young men living on the South Side of Chicago are far more likely to meet a violent end… in that community, than any abortions is [sic].

In addition to his uncompromising position against womens’ reproductive health rights and flaunting disregard for law, all under the guise of religion, Okelberry has been advocating for the most vile, sickening law enforcement practices imaginable.  Follows is only one example of the kinds of punishment he imagines for young pregnant girls.

I do want to point out that when a 15 year old girl does have an abortion, the genetic material contained in the discarded fetus should be collected by law enforcement and used as evidence of a crime. What crime you ask? First degree, unlawful sexual assault of a minor child is a felony in Nebraska. Richard Okelberry March 24, 2006

The lengthy record of Okelberry’s writing reflect nothing short of the ugliest kind of misogyny and a total disregard for democracy, privacy, law,  Christian doctrine and the Christian community.

Okelberry’s actions and posture on this issue constitute nothing less than the promotion of violence, immorality, misogyny and intolerance through the fraudulent usurpation of Christianity.

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Single women account for 40 percent of U.S. births

dadandbabyThe CDC has released statistics on births in the U.S. for 2007. The birth rate exceeded the peak of the baby boom of the 1950s, and the rate of 2.1 babies per U.S. woman is just what is needed for the population to replace itself, although the current birthrate is already showing signs of declining since the onset of the recession (the lowest birthrate recorded was during the Great Depression).

Here are a few other facts from the CDC. Probably the most surprising fact to me was the number of births to single women (do we still call them ‘unwed mothers’?). I deliberately chose a picture of dad and baby for this post as I think dads have really stepped up as nurturers in the last couple of decades. It’s time to put to rest old ideas about who can be good parents. Read the rest of this entry »

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Updated: Politics + Religion = Terrorism

Update: I changed “Skinny greasy white guy” to “Fat and greasy white guy” to better balance the options. I just thought maybe the women in Okelberries life might prefer a fat guy to a skinny white guy to make their reproductive health decisions for them.

Commenter Don makes an interesting point about a claim (someone made on this blog) that strict views against choice are mainstream. He points to the following Quinnipiac poll:

“Do you think abortion should be legal in all cases, legal in most cases, illegal in most cases or illegal in all cases?”

Always Legal – 19%
Usually Legal – 38%
Usually Illegal – 24%
Always Illegal – 14%
Unsure – 5%

Don says:

If we add the categories “Usually Illegal” and “Always Illegal” together then maybe saying your view is “extreme” was a bit much. But you certainly aren’t in the mainstream. Check out the rest of the polls for further proof of that point.

At BEST, the anti-choice crowd is 38%, hardly the majority the religious-right propaganda machine claims.

I submit, that if you asked the question differently–more honestly–you would find that the ONLY Americans that want to make abortion illegal are:

a. Religious freaks who aren’t getting any.
b. Religious freaks with young children who know they won’t be getting much more from Mother.
c. Fat greasy white men who have no respect for women

So I wrote a response that not only cracked me up, but also makes an important point.

Here are some questions that 86% percent of Americans answer in favor of a woman’s right to control her own reproductive health.

Do you think state office holders should restrict your right to make personal family planning decisions in all cases, in most cases, some case or no case?

Here’s another question:

If your pregnant wife found herself in the ICU with complications of her pregnancy at 6 months, which group of white guys should be the final arbiters of the decision to abort the pregnancy or not?

Circle all that apply:

1. Fat white guy
2. Skinny white guy
3. Judge and part time preacher guy
4. Greasy but not fat white guy
5. Fat and greasy white guy
6. All of the above.

Hey this is FUN! One more:

The US government has decided abortion is illegal after one month, except in the case of rape, maybe.

Your 17-year old daughter gang rapped by 5 guys. – a Mexican, an Irishman, a Jew, a midget, and a fat greasy white man. She hopes and prays she’s not pregnant. But she is too afraid to talk about the rape because one of the guys has threatened to kill her little brother if she tells…and she really like the Jew boy anyway.

She stays silent until it too late and now she is pregnant. You are her Dad and she tells you.

Which option do you choose:

Make her have the baby?
1. Go to the police report the rape. Then go to a judge to ask for a rape exemption and hope it doesn’t take 90 days to have a trial and make sure she’s telling the truth?
2. Make her marry the Jew even if the midget sperm won?
3. Do a DNA test to make sure the father isn’t the Irishman?
4. Disown her?
5. Kill her?

Here’s one of the things that will happen all the time if we outlaw abortion:

Wife and husband are estranged (not sleeping together). This is VERY common in real life. Wife has an affair – gets pregnant. Thanks to you, abortion is illegal except in the case of rape.

Wife is DESPERATE to not get caught, so she accuses her annoying neighbor, poor innocent Richard Okelberry of raping her so she can get an abortion.

That night, she changes her mind and goes over to apologize to Richard and finds him in a pool of blood and this note.

Die Asshole,

You’ve raped your last victim.

RIP, Bob S. – 2nd Amendment Guy

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Social Conservatives Tell Churches SHUT UP!

For those of you who have suffered through what I shall refer to as “Schooling Church Boy”, you know that I called out Richard Okelberry for his dangerous and ignorant, but earnest and well-written, editorial on Obama’s response to the question the Saddleback Church about when a fetus should have human rights.

Obama’s answer was perfect; “It’s beyond my pay grade.”

I believe this was and is the only appropriate response for any office holder in American government. That answer demonstrates a perfect fealty to the The Founders intent as well as a clear understanding of the responsibility of a political leader to a pluralistic constituency.

Richard saw it differently. Initially, he attempted to deny the primacy of his religion in his perspective having meticulously avoided any religious reference in article. But it didn’t take long for church boy to throw off this ruse and begin blathering on about his religion and doctrinal problems with reproductive rights.

After two days of banter, Richard has finally, I think, achieved some clarity and graciously agreed to move beyond his obsession with the unborn and is moving toward a discussion, I hope, about the propriety of religion in politics.

My basic premise is that one as an American voter, one SHOULD check his/her religion/faith at the door and that religions and churches should stay the hell out of politics, especially now that we have seen how very destructive has been the religious pandering of the Bush/Cheney/Rove administration.

I agree completely with major shift toward this point of view by social conservatives as reflected in the recent poll discussed below.

Poll: Slim Backing For Keeping Politics, Religion Apart
All Things Considered, August 21, 2008

Listen Now [4 min 30 sec]

A new poll from the Pew Research Center has found a slim majority that says religious institutions should not speak out on political and social issues. The data are a shift from polls conducted over the past decade. Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center, says all of the change has been among political conservatives.

Study: Conservatives Grow Wary Of Mixing Religion, Politics

Fifty percent of conservatives think churches and other places of worship should stay out of social and political matters, up from 30 percent four years ago…



SOME of The Founding Fathers May Have Been Christians But…

They also knew well, how religion can make some people stupid.  Thats why the first ten words of the first amendment are, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

Of late, some of our less learned brethren have decided the establishment clause somehow means the opposite.  Such sheeple are of course, a grave embarrassment to the country and their friends and family.

I think if the founding Fathers were around today to witness the astounding ignorance of fundamentalist America, they would take to the airwaves in order to help their fellow Christians understand more clearly.

Madison: "Let me put it to you another way folks, keep your ‘filth’ OUT of government." [1]

"YO! BOO-CHAY," Franklin would say (because thats what he calls Bush/Cheney), "I don’t remember putting a disclaimer in ‘ner thats says these amendments are in no particular order…cuz THEY ARE! And guess which one is FIRST!"[2]

And of course Adams would have been a regular on Howard Stern, "If I hear one more ‘mutha fucka’ mention Jesus of God, I’ll take’em out myself!"[3]

I’m writing this because my vile, hateful, unpatriotic, liberal sensibilities were violated by this post over on KVNU By The People.  Some guy named Richard Okelberry spew his religious man-hood all over Obama at Saddleback Church:

"Of course you will never hear Obama take a pronounce stance on this issue. Instead he will simply shrug off the responsibility for his voting record on the issue by saying that such a decision is “beyond my pay grade.”  Unfortunately for America, there is no higher pay grade than that of the President of the United States of America."

First of all Okelberry, Obama is not yet the "President of the United States of America."  But thanks for your confidence.  Secondly, Obama understands something you and McCain clearly don’t about leadership as it relates to being President of this country and I don’t have time to explain it to you.

Hear me Okelberry. We (and I include many, many American Christians, Jews, and Muslims) would prefer if you and McCain would keep you stinking religious hands off our government.

He’s over at KVNU blog right now blathering on about how for his pregnant wife "nothing is more revolting than sucking that moving child from within her" (embarrassing his wife in the process know doubt).

Yo Church Boy.  Its not about your feelings or revulsion.  We all hate abortions!

Okelberry, Okelberry, Okelberry, its about who is better qualified to make family decisions for Mr. and Mrs Okelberry: Mr. and Mrs Okelberry or the government?  You pick…

Mrs. Okelberry may well agree with you that the idea of aborting Okelberry Jr. is ‘revolting’, but I do not believe that means Mrs. Okelberry is saying YOU or anyone else can tell her how to run her body.  Do you?  Do you really think Mrs. Okelberry NEEDS you or McCain to help her?  Put her on the phone dammit!

But here’s the part that confirmed Mr. Okellberry’s misogyny: "I would always side with protecting the life of the child over the mother’s.  To me it is no different than having to decide who gets the last spot in a lifeboat on a sinking ship, a child or a full grown woman."

Hey Okelberry.  Who asked you?  We are talking about presidential candidates.  No body cares about your personal religious beliefs so SHUT UP!

Read this over and over until it hurts. Article VI, Section 3, ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

Thank you.


[1] James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments [1785] "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

[2] Benjamin Franklin, Essay on Toleration: "If we look back into history for the character of the present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practiced it on one another.

[3] John Adams, A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America [1787-1788] "It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses."



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