Posts Tagged second amendment
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on April 11, 2013
I’m sick and tired of the “guns don’t kill people; people do” mantra. Its too stupid for words.
If it ain’t a hunting rifle, it was designed for a singular purpose, to give a human being the ability to kill another human being. The same cannot be said about spoons, knives, cars, hammers or hamburgers.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on April 5, 2013
Thom Hartmann explains to Larry the caller why the 2nd Amendment was written to allow citizens to defend their country, not defend AGAINST tyranny.
What would it take for you to stand out in front of your house with weapons and defend yourself against the federal government?
Second Amendment Primer: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,…”
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on January 13, 2013
Obama should exercise his presidential authority to effect sensible gun control nationally for two reasons:
1. It bring a badly needed Supreme Court challenge that will likely involve the “Militia” part of the second amendment.
2. It will turn up the volume for historians and constitutional experts in a broad national debate in which second-amendment-extremist will learn a more reasonable interpretation of the second amendment; one that is supported by fact and history instead of the version Justice Scalia smeared like skid marks into our national undies.
We are finally beginning to have an honest discussion about the true meaning of the Second Amendment. Until Sandy Hook, gun rights extremist managed to dominate the conversation. They were allowed to ignore the “A well regulated Militia, being necessary” part.
Here is a PERFECT EXAMPLE from an interview by Nashville’s WSMV-TV on Friday.
It is a fact that the average James Yeager and other Second Amendment Advocates cannot actually recite the whole sentence:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Obama should use his executive power if it will mean Wayne LaPierre, the average 2nd amendment “advocate” and crooked snake oil salesmen like David Hardy will be FORCED to read and memorize THE WHOLE SENTENCE and address the HISTORICAL FACTS surrounding the writing of the Bill of Rights.
Biden’s press conference on gun control interrupted by news of school shooting.
And who is that? James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response, a company that specializes in selling exactly the types of weapons we don’t need, and then training you to use them. Apparently to overthrow your government.
Sadly that is not his original channel video. Why? Because he is a total coward, and already took the original down. But on the internet, things have a tendency to pop back up again.
I eagerly await all the true patriot tea bagger supporters of freedom and haters of treasonous people who I am sure are already formulating a response to remove this man who just explained that he is planning on committing treason. I am sure they are shutting him done as I type this.
You know how people sometimes say “if only we had warning before he went crazy and flew off the handle” after a shooting? This video is a red flag. A giant screaming red flag. With fireworks.
Increasingly the first red flag that you are the type of mentally unstable person who shouldn’t be allowed to own a gun is that you own a gun.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on January 9, 2013
The National Rifle Association countered with “arm the teachers.” Gun clubs claim hundreds of teachers are applying for free weapons training. Two hundred people showed up for a class in West Valley City, Utah, outside Salt Lake City, on December 27, 2012, for example. Not all of the people who took the course were teachers. But some were, including Carolyn Cain, who teaches special education kids in kindergarten to the 6th grade in Utah County, Utah.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on December 21, 2012
The NRA is the enabler of death-paranoid, delusional and as venomous as a scorpion. With the weak-kneed acquiescence of our politicians, the National Rifle Association has turned the Second Amendment of the Constitution into a cruel and deadly hoax. – Bill Moyers
The procession of funerals of innocent children under the casual gaze of the gun lobby and 2nd Amendment zealots, reminds us that our public spaces are no longer safe. This is the antithesis of freedom and civic life. Americans must rise up now against this terror and demand basic security for unarmed people.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on November 1, 2009
Thoroughly debunked years ago, the gun lobby’s favorite research – a 1995 study by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz that reported an astounding 2.5 million defense gun uses (DGU) each year in the United States. Yep, you read it right; 2.5 million DGUs PER YEAR!
The Kleck study claims that 2.5 million times per year, someone uses a gun to defend themselves. That’s more defensive gun uses than happened in WWII in Europe in 1944. The Kleck study is so flawed the only thing it measures is the wild imagination of gun owners.
As recently as this month, the NRA referenced Kleck’s deeply flawed and thoroughly refuted study AGAIN in their magazine, America’s 1st Freedom.
With the help of liars like Alan Korwin and others, the NRA continues to feed its readers demonstrable lies and distortions.
Here, for your reference, is a short list of the many peer reviewed, refereed, academic articles published that clearly refute Kleck’s astronomical claim.*
- “The gun debate’s new mythical number: How many defensive uses per year?” Journal of Police Analysis and Management, 1997
- “The myth of millions of annual self-defense gun use: A case study of survey overestimates of rare events” Chance – American Statistical Association, 1997
- “Defensive Gun Uses: New Evidence from a National Survey” Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1998
- “The Relative Frequency of Offensive and Defensive Gun Uses: Results from a National Survey”, Violence and Victims, 2000
- “Myths about Defensive Gun Use and Permissive Gun Carry Laws” Berkeley Media Studies Group, 2000
- “Comparing the Incidence of Self-Defense Gun Use and Criminal Gun Use” Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 2009
The ultimate proof the Kleck claim is bullshit, is the fact that despite spending 35 million dollars/year to deceive the public and threaten politicians, in fourteen years since the study, the gun lobby has funded numerous FAILED attempts to repeat Kleck’s study.
*It should be noted that Gary Kleck has refused to defend his study ever since it was published.
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Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on July 22, 2009
Can you say
The 58-39 vote Wednesday defeated a measure giving people with concealed weapons permits the right to carry their firearms into other states that have similar gun laws. Sixty votes were needed to approve the provision, an amendment to a defense spending bill. Read all about it!
The winds of change are in the air. National Rifle Association (NRA) candidates got trounced in the 2008 elections.
The NRA spent over thirty-one times more money against Obama than it spent in its negative efforts in 2000 against Al Gore.
This virtually unreported fact (with the exception of OneUtah) is nevertheless, the strongest indicator of the trending sentiment of the American people.
In head-to-head races between candidates endorsed or “A” rated by the NRA and candidates endorsed by the Brady Campaign, Brady candidates won more than 80 percent (including eight of eight U.S. Senate races).
If you look beyond the noise of the few and vocal gun-freaks, you will find an America who while still holding on to the rather fanciful, historical but wrong interpretation of 2a, have grown weary of the spineless machismo of the NRA. Their strongest advocates are best described as armed ‘Birthers.’
…and we all know what kind of Americans they are.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on April 2, 2009
Link: The driver , of a white Dodge Intrepid pulled into the drive-through at about 2 a.m. at McDonald’s at 210 W. 500 South in Salt Lake City and ordered food from the lunch and dinner menu, police said.
When a clerk told her the restaurant was serving only items from the breakfast menu, the woman drove to the second window, police said. Two men got out of the car, and one pulled a sawed-off shotgun out of the trunk, police said. He fired once or twice into the drive-though window before the two men and the woman left…
That’s right. Amid strong public opposition, the rural, religious, right-wing politicos that run the state have taken Utah closer to the territory of the Wild Wild West for which they yearn.
Link: The two bills make changes to current gun laws to allow loaded firearms to be carried in vehicles without the necessity of a concealed weapons permit, and require businesses to allow loaded firearms in vehicles parked on their property…
…all for which will only make it easier for pretty much anyone to steal a loaded gun without having to confront its owner. Yeaaaaah!!!
On the issue of allowing loaded firearms to be carried in vehicles without a concealed weapons permit, 60 percent of respondents were somewhat or strongly opposed, while 35 percent were somewhat or strongly in favor.
Ah, but the gun lobby is very very active at the Capitol and the spine of the average pioneer, well…absent.
Seemingly, Republican legislators are willing to take the sides of gun rights lobbyists against the rights of property owners,” Gunn said. “Legislators are saying that gun rights trump property rights.
But then what are Republicans if not hypocrites.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on March 30, 2009
JESUS! It hasn’t even been 24 hours, and we have like twenty dead innocent Americans in three different shootings without even looking too hard.
I wonder how murders were prevented today with guns.
Man accidentally shoots brother while comparing weaponsMarch 30th, 2009 @ 10:54am
Brotherly bonding over guns ended with one of the siblings in the hospital.
The Tooele County Sheriff’s Office says the pair was driving from their home in Elko Nevada to Salt Lake City Saturday morning when they began comparing the weapons they both had with them. It was then that one of the brothers accidentally shot the other.
He apparently did not realize his gun was loaded.
The man was shot in the leg. He was transported via helicopter to the University of Utah Medical Center and is expected to be OK.
Posted by Cliff Lyon in Uncategorized on March 26, 2009
So this Gun Freak named Nightmare sends his nine-year-old son to school wearing this T-Shirt. School makes the kid turn it inside out for the rest of the day. Gun-Freak Dad spends 6 straight days blogging about it.
What is this extreme obsession with guns? I weep for the poor little kid. He’s not even old enough to use a gun and his Dad is using him to promote guns and scaring a lot of other little kids in the process.
Link: I was informed that he was removed from the classroom and taken to a Counsellor who convinced him to remove the shirt and turn it inside out. That spurs questions in my “investigative mind”…
He was then returned to the classroom. He was made to wear his clothing in an inappropriate manner in front of the other students.
Nevermind that his education was disrupted and he was singled out by the teacher.
Nevermind that the t-shirt contained no obscenities, doesn’t suggest or promote anti-social behavior, doesn’t advertise alcohol, tobbaco or the occult, violence, vulgarity, profanity or sexual references.
Nevermind that the school has a home contact and other emergency contact numbers for reaching us.
Nevermind that they didn’t call to bring the matter up.
I think the guy actually typed out the school’s handbook including dress code which forbids clothing that:
“advertises any product or service not permitted to minors by law.
…suggests or promotes anti-social behavior, violence,…”
Is an NRA t-shirt with 4 hand guns designed to shoot at people on it promoting violence? I would be hard to imagine a more violent t-shirt. I suppose depicting and actual murder might be worse.
Does an NRA t-shirt with 4 hand guns designed to shoot at people promote anti-social behavior? Next time you are in a nice social situation like school, church or family picnic, try pulling out a hand gun then take a poll.
Is it speech protected by the First Amendment? Yes, except in responsible schools with thoughtful policies designed to protect innocent children from the vagaries of their parents.